Shazam vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Daemon Seed
4 out of 10 is almost half...... That's pretty close.

I was being prudent, I really wanted to say 2 or 3. Thats how i see if when you actually look at their capabilities and what they can bring to the table.

CM can form magical amped punches, fly, super strength, durability, super speed and stamina.

SS can form any type of amped punches (EM, cosmic etc), fly, super strength, durability, super speed and stamina.

Then you have precog abilities, time warp abilities, amping, psi, matter manipulation, energy manipulation, energy blasts, eye blasts, healing, energy absorption, cosmic awareness, life force manipulation

the wizard? he desintegrates SS with a whisper

Originally posted by 753
the wizard? he desintegrates SS with a whisper

No, the general debate is about CM not the wizard

Where did it state it was Billy? I thought we use current incarnations. Anyway, Lord Billy wins. He was 10 times more powerful.

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
No, the general debate is about CM not the wizard

Of course, SS wins. Billy is powerless.

then he wouldnt be cm, i meant classic CM

Wizard Billy 10/10, standard Billy 5/10, the Wizard Shazam stomps, Shazam in ROE spite.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
😎 Depending on where they are battling.

Space or not space? That is the question. 😂

SS is faster, stronger. Too cosmically powered basically. Energy drain, molecule manipulating, etc. If they are in space with no atmosphere no SHAZAMisims! (no lighting bolts) very quickly over. On earth or another planet similar longer fight but IMO same result SS is the hands down winner. 😎

faster ,stronger? you have no proof hes stronger then billy. let alone faster. if this is a close up fight ss is toast. however surfer is to smart and has a cosmic awareness. HE will range billy and ware him down. Cap will be tougher to beat for surfer then say supes would be but in the end surfer will prolly win.

lol at people replying to posts from 2005. You guys won't get a reply so what's the point?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wizard stomps.

If it's Cap though it's a close fight that could go either way.

Originally posted by kgkg
lol at people replying to posts from 2005. You guys won't get a reply so what's the point?

Are most of them not posting, either way, both characters have had some changes. Baring this isn't the wizard.

Originally posted by zeel
faster ,stronger? you have no proof hes stronger then billy. let alone faster.

You really doubting Surfer being the faster of these two??

Originally posted by zeel
if this is a close up fight ss is toast.

I dnt really buy that.. Sufer's been up close with Gladiator and stalemated him.. Also in a crossover Surfer and Cyborg Superman went at it close up at first, but no one came out a winner there.

You see close up Surfer can zap his opponent with cosmic energy at point blank range! And hes more than durable enough to take hits from the heavy weight like Cap. Marvel and Supes. I mean the guy can withstand all the harshness of outer space, including the heat of the hottest star and even the power of a black hole.

Surfer destroys Captain Marvel.

This is a totally non-bias view as I care little about either character.

This is based on feats. Surfer is considerably faster (he's up there with Flash), so in a bloodlusted fight where Surfer wasn't suffering from the "I've forgotten that I have super-speed" disease associated with inconsistent writing and plot-induced-stupidity, Captain Marvel couldn't even touch him.

He's also got a much, much larger power output and a much more versatile powerset.

There isn't much weaknesses Surfer can exploit. He doesn't destroy Cap here. He'd get the majority, but it won't be easy/

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LOL at some of the posts in this thread. They didn't even know their characters.
This is easy. Captain Marvel wins.
Everyone agrees that the only possible way SS has a chance against superman is via weakness exploitation. Remove it and Superman hands him his butt. This applies here, Is SS going to drain Caps sun light? turn the sun red? I don't think so, it will come down to a fight and Captain Marvel will win. Beat down of epic proportions, worse than what Thanos does to him on a regular basis.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Everyone agrees that the only possible way SS has a chance against superman is via weakness exploitation. Remove it and Superman hands him his butt.

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Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
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First face palm ever (thank you), but i see you left out
"....worse than what Thanos does to him on a regular basis."

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
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This is the correct reaction.