Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
what the crap? both scarlet witch and white crown phoenix are well well above thanos. white crown phoenix is the strongest competetor on either team.and thanos would lose against a combo team of current magneto and god cable.
Surfer spanked cable. Thanos is FARRRRRR above surfer. You do the math.
Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
what the crap? both scarlet witch and white crown phoenix are well well above thanos. white crown phoenix is the strongest competetor on either team.and thanos would lose against a combo team of current magneto and god cable.
Thanos has easily pimp slaped
Drax , Chap with power Gem , SS , Thor etc.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
The phoenix existed long before Jean existed, it is a cosmic entity in it's own right.
Jean is an Omega mutant. she has the ability to become one with her powers, and her ultimate mutation is the ability to become one with the Phoenix. Its her "telekinetic godhood" according to Beast/Sublime. In fact he tries to use her blood to give himself Phoenix powers.
I suggest you read Phoenix: Endsong 😉 It says that Phoenix Force and Jean Grey are the same self.
Also in X-men forever, she's told that she can replace the Phoenix force (in fact, she did once, Death tells her). She's also told that she is the person the Abstracts are most afraid of, because she has the ability to become a cosmic entity. Later in New X-men, after the Beast/Sublime incident, she DOES become a cosmic entity, while also being a mutant.
Originally posted by FieryBalrog
Jean is an Omega mutant. she has the ability to become one with her powers, and her ultimate mutation is the ability to become one with the Phoenix. Its her "telekinetic godhood" according to Beast/Sublime. In fact he tries to use her blood to give himself Phoenix powers.I suggest you read Phoenix: Endsong 😉 It says that Phoenix Force and Jean Grey are the same self.
Also in X-men forever, she's told that she can replace the Phoenix force (in fact, she did once, Death tells her). She's also told that [b]she
is the person the Abstracts are most afraid of, because she has the ability to become a cosmic entity. Later in New X-men, after the Beast/Sublime incident, she DOES become a cosmic entity, while also being a mutant. [/B]
And dumb shit like that is why I don't read x-men.
The Stranger himself detents a power maybe equal or near that of Galactus, he was one of the beings called from the Living Tribunal into the Council Of War assembled to assault Thanos while he was in possess of the HOTU, and the Stranger was near Galactus and the other uber alles guys, he's the result of the fusion of the population of an entire planet.
Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
this is current reality warping scarlet witch. not the old "chaos magik" hex-bolts scarlet witch.
Magneto opens up a wormhole and everybody labels him a reality warper as well. Well, so what if she can reality warp. Did she do something impressive?
Thanos would stomp God-like Cable, current Magneto, and current Scarlet Witch. Don't believe me? Well can any of them stand up to an assult of his? Do they even have anything to put him down?
No,the origin of the Stranger has been later retconned.He pretended to be the being which was the sum of all the Gigantians because he accidentaly killed him and took his place to make amends.We dont know its true origin.And again,the Stranger may have a power near to Galactus,but the tried to use Jean and the other mutants as a means to become all-powerful.
As for Jean,the point is not that she replaces the Phoenix,but that she becomes one with it.It is also very simple to understand:the Phoenix is the sum and substance of all life.When Jean died and was reborn as Phoenix,her telepathy spiked and she briefly became one with all life.The Phoenix is a primal force of creation.Telekinesis is consciousness extended to matter:when Jean died and was reborn as Phoenix,her consciousness came briefly in touch with all of creation.This was the original idea behind her trasformation.
From that point on,Phoenix can trickle down in our reality through Jean,and Jean can ultimately evolve into Phoenix and trascend this plane of reality.
Ps everyone is entitled to its opinion obviously,but I dont think that an endless iteration of stories in which Thanos stumbles across the new all-powerful item of the month (cosmic cube,infinity gauntlet,heart of the Universe...whats next?) and uses it to conquer the Universe is an example of good writing.Nor I think is a particularly good idea to create an abstract being for nearly every concept you can think of.