Batman versus the Ninja Turles

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
I'm pretty sure it's 127, and it doesn't make sense to me but until DC takes it back that's the way it is, It really doesn't sound more unrealistic to me than controlling the weather because you're born with an X-gene.

I wasn't trying to rag on the "X-gene" I was trying to defend them both. There's all this whining about it, but it's just the damn truth.

I think it is not so much about realism but about consistency within the comic book world. I think the Batman character does play the "normal human" card to some degree. This is the first I heard anyone say that he knows every martial art. In the older comics I have seen I don't remember Batman doing fancy monkey style kung-fu or capoeira moves (ok, he knows them but doesn't use them right?) Anyway, I think just a bada** with a vendetta, detective skills, money, devices, and a secret lair is enough.

That's what I was saying about Hawkman, than found a way to make that character's fighting ability consistent with the story world.

I like Moon Knight better. He got beat down by a Vietnmam vet in a black knight costume in Moon Knight #25. An almost regular guy in a mysterious costume getting beat down by another regular guy in a mysterious costume.

Someone mentioned this as being a difference between Marvel and D.C., Marvel tries to have explanations for everything, even if the are hokey comic book explanations. Not necessarily a worse thing about D.C., you just have to suspend disbelief that much more. Star Trek vs. Star Wars.

The ninja turtles are lame. All Batman has to do is toss them a pizza and all four will go bonkers. The only character worth Batman's time is shredder. And yes Batman can beat all the ninja turtles one on one. All 4 would be a challengin task. Besides all 4 of those brainless turtles can say is " Dude, pizza time" Oh the humanity!

They'd kick Batman's A$$ for him together, and most could do it alone. (Not Raph)

I doubt they'd win everytime they fought though. I think most could take him in a 1st encounter

To clear up some confusion. I was going by Morrison era, so things may have changed sinse then. Unless there is only 126 or 127 forms of martial arts.

JLA Secret Files and origins.

Originally posted by WindDancer
The ninja turtles are lame. All Batman has to do is toss them a pizza and all four will go bonkers. The only character worth Batman's time is shredder. And yes Batman can beat all the ninja turtles one on one. All 4 would be a challengin task. Besides all 4 of those brainless turtles can say is " Dude, pizza time" Oh the humanity!

This is silly. I would really like to see how the turtles react to things like sonics, and specifically how their SHELLS react to sonics at certain frequencies.

Not really like he'd get much of a chance. Not like they really have external ears anyway.

In my personal opinion, any of the turtles could take him. I'm not saying it would be easy, but I think each one of them could do it. Even Mikey.

The feats they perform are always incredible, as are Batman's. But I just think that they have more of an advantage here, being masters of their very own style of ninjitsu. Masters because they've been studying and practicing it their entire lives.

It is humanly impossible for Batman to be a master in 126/127 different martial arts. To become a master takes many many years and constant training of that certain martial art. And you very well could not attempt to practice them all at once. He may "dabble" in all of those martial arts, taking bits and pieces from each and maybe mastering a couple, but there is absolutely no way for him to be able to be a master in all of those.

Sorry you're wrong. This isn't real life, you want to talk about how it's impossible for for Bats to know 127 martial arts, then it's impossible for turtles to turn into humanoids because of ooze. If that's the way you wanna argue fine, 1 highly trained human beats the hell out of 4 turtles. I guess he could just use a hammer.

So now you're going to take my words like that?

Explain to me how he could be a master of that many fighting styles? Even in terms of comic books. There is no way that he would be able to do that, even if one thought only in terms of the comic universe.

And yes, I know that is clearly impossible for the Ninja Turtles to actually exist, but since they are kind of the basis for this vs. match in the first place, I think they deserve to have an excuse in that department.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So now you're going to take my words like that?

Explain to me how he could be a master of that many fighting styles? Even in terms of comic books. There is no way that he would be able to do that, even if one thought only in terms of the comic universe.

And yes, I know that is clearly impossible for the Ninja Turtles to actually exist, but since they are kind of the basis for this vs. match in the first place, I think they deserve to have an excuse in that department.

So you're arguement is that some people have to be realistic while it's ok for others not to be?

I don't know how the hell you master 127 martial arts style, it sounds like crap to me, but this is a COMIC BOOK. Where guys ride around the universe on surf boards, have unlimited strength, cheat death, trick gods, defeat uber-powerful beings.

The turtles get all of there advantages, but Bats doesn't cause it's not realistic. Does that make any sense to you?

lol....agreed....but i still think the turtles take him down with minimal loss.

I never said anyone would win.

oh...my bad...I was too lazy to look back...just read the last few posts or so.

Originally posted by WindDancer
The ninja turtles are lame. All Batman has to do is toss them a pizza and all four will go bonkers. The only character worth Batman's time is shredder. And yes Batman can beat all the ninja turtles one on one. All 4 would be a challengin task. Besides all 4 of those brainless turtles can say is " Dude, pizza time" Oh the humanity!

They are not like that in the comic books or the new cartoon, and either from either one of those Batman goes down one on one no way he beats all four at once.

new cartoon they kick bats ass

old cartoon they get sold on the black market and turned into ash trays

The Ninja Turtles win. Individualy he would beat them soundly, but Splinter, Shredder, and even Casy Jones have a good chance of pulling off a victory over Batman on their own.

Casey is going a little to far...He's psycho not much else. He'd be beat by Batman. And it depends on what Shredder on if he could win.