Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I thought you were dead. ^
No, just busy. KMC is what I do when waiting for Game of Thrones episodes, or when I'm too lazy to change DVDs.
Originally posted by JKBart
Are u this Janus guy who claimed this thread is legit and Marka is a good opponent?kill self
Originally posted by Rebel95
Yeah I know lol. I wonder how stupid our posts now will look in 10 years...
Some of these necro'd threads are pre-RotS.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Moose, how is Kun inferior to Ragnos when Kun is the most powerful Sith Lord of his lineage?
Where are you getting that quote from? The source material explicitly indicates that Ragnos is the strongest of the strongest (Golden Age of the Sith) and this is material which is written by Kun's own creator. Kun handily wipes the floor with just about everyone in his own day, but aside from Freedan Nadd's ghost (who is shit-scared of Ragnos) he doesn't master any ancient Sith, just oodles of Jedi.
In The Official Fact File 1 among the Sith presented in the Dark Lords of the Sith section, including Freedon Nadd, Naga Sadow and Ulic Qel-Droma, Exar Kun is stated to be the most powerful of all. This is repeated in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia which states Exar Kun was 'once the most powerful and dangerous of the Dark Lords of the Sith'. Marka Ragnos' accolade of being 'the most powerful of the most powerful' is referring to his (lengthy) time as Dark Lord of the Sith Empire.
Originally posted by AncientPower
In The Official Fact File 1 among the Sith presented in the Dark Lords of the Sith section, including Freedon Nadd, Naga Sadow and Ulic Qel-Droma, Exar Kun is stated to be the most powerful of all. This is repeated in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia which states Exar Kun was 'once the most powerful and dangerous of the Dark Lords of the Sith'. Marka Ragnos' accolade of being 'the most powerful of the most powerful' is referring to his (lengthy) time as Dark Lord of the Sith Empire.
So, Kun's claim means powerful in terms of combative abilities, but Ragnos' claim translates to his reign as a Sith Lord?
Originally posted by AncientPower
[B]In The Official Fact File 1 among the Sith presented in the Dark Lords of the Sith section, including Freedon Nadd, Naga Sadow and Ulic Qel-Droma, Exar Kun is stated to be the most powerful of all.
And does it also include Ragnos? No?
I do remember an Official Fact File that contains Sidious and proclaims Exar Kun is the most powerful and dangerous of the Sith, though. That one is also commonly ignored here. 😉
This is repeated in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia which states Exar Kun was 'once the most powerful and dangerous of the Dark Lords of the Sith'. Marka Ragnos' accolade of being 'the most powerful of the most powerful' is referring to his (lengthy) time as Dark Lord of the Sith Empire.
And why, pray tell, do you assume that the "once" in the statement regarding Kun doesn't limit that statement to the time when Kun was alive?
I may help out: Kevin J. Anderson himself did put Kun above Ragnos and the other Ancient Sith (on one level with DE Sidious, as a matter of fact). Point being: Various sources have expanded our knowledge about the Ancient Sith, while leaving Ragnos entirely uncontested in his position as the most powerful member of that peer group, reigning supreme in the Golden Age of the Sith.
That means Ragnos is above such illustrious beings like Sadow, Kressh, Hord, Muur, Nadd, two of whom have conquered planets one-man-army style. He is above pre-Nathema Vitiate and if you take the list of those people, there is a rather huge lot of people inferior to Ragnos for all we know.
And then, there is this nice quote from Luke, that you've mentioned yourself (if I'm not mistaken). The quote said, to be precise, that it would need the entire Jedi Academy to try challenge a completely resurrected Ragnos. Which means that post-DE, post-Kun-encounter Luke Skywalker was not sure that the entirety of the Academy, including himself, would be capable of defeating a living Ragnos. And given the list of inferiors to Ragnos, and the knowledge what Ragnos sceptre - a single tool left behind by him - was capable off, he had ample reasons for his doubts in that regard. Makes one wonder, why nobody here has some...
So, actually, this thread still makes more sense than most people who did post in it post necromancing... 😉
Originally posted by AncientPower
Nai, there were no other Dark Lords in Kun's time, Ulic was his apprentice, he'd already replaced Nadd as a 'great power'. Logically it infers he was the most powerful Sith up until his time.
Last time I checked, the comics are called "Dark Lords of the Sith", which implies that Ulic is to be counted among them. And also, there was an entire freaking Sith Empire filled with Dark Lords including Vitiate in Kun's time. So Kun > post-Nathema Vitiate? And since there is no "once" in the Official Star Wars Fact File, is it logically to infer that Kun > DE Sidious and Kun > Valkorion?
Isn't it nice how the sources can backfire in every possible direction? I love it. 😂