Strength levels

True. I know Juggs is over 100 Tons, but probably not by a lot...I was pointing out that some sources wouldn't even have him at 100 to show that he isn't as far over 100 as a lot of the others on the list.

And Glads is a braggart, and the star thing is only a rumor. But the Ego fight happened, and during it even Thanos was impressed by Gladiator. I'd keep him at #1

i doubt hercules is above wonder woman. imo she is way stronger than him. and saying herc is stronger than ww is saying that she-hulk is stronger than ww, and i doubt that also

I'd add Agamemnon, Ikaris, Orion, Martian Manhunter, Beta Ray Bill, Hyperion, Wonderwoman and Valor from the two respective companies

Originally posted by savagerampage
I wish both marvel/Dc had the same strength Meter. It really posses a problem when debating on who is stronger. Dc glorifies there characters 2 much, marvel not so much, and people automatically think Dc's characters are stronger when, infact marvels characters are more than able to do the same. i personally think all these characters are pretty much in the same strength league.

Doomsday
Hulk
Juggernaut
Superman
Thor
Captain marvel
Gladiator
Hercules

no particular order. All these characters have never shown a limit to what they can lift.

Juggernaut can easily lift over 100,000 tons with ease, he took out a one of the world trade centers by ramming his shoulder into it.

wonderwoman is stronger than current hercules yes, but she is not stronger than full god hercules marvel. she was made outta clay by the gods, herc is a god, nuff said. but she should be on this list as well, along with the others whirlyspat mentioned

Originally posted by savagerampage

wonderwoman is stronger than current hercules yes, but she is not stronger than full god hercules marvel. she was made outta clay by the gods, herc is a god, nuff said. but she should be on this list as well, along with the others whirlyspat mentioned

You never learn. DC Hercules lifted the entire friggin world. In a contest of strength Diana beat him. As an Olympian god no less.

And yes WW should be on the list.

marvel herc is stronger. and how on earth can he lift the planet? unless he can fly and breathe in space, its impossible

Originally posted by savagerampage
marvel herc is stronger. and how on earth can he lift the planet? unless he can fly and breathe in space, its impossible

It's called Greek Mythology. And no Marvel Hercules and DC Hercules are pretty much (at full-power) equal in strength.

Which is why Diana is stronger.

So translation herc never lifted anything lol thus being a myth. i dont think any of those characters can lift a planet, its physically impossible. im sure they can push planets like superman has.

Originally posted by savagerampage
So translation herc never lifted anything lol thus being a myth. i dont think any of those characters can lift a planet, its physically impossible. im sure they can push planets like superman has.

*sigh* Shall I mention Thor? He's myth. 🙄 DC Hercules AND Marvel Hercules lifted the Earth for Atlas.

It's called magic.

A mythical character never lifted the world because it's myth? 🤨

I know thor is a myth as well. But if hercules can lift planets, and he gets his ass smoked by hulk, Juggernaut etc, and they are clearly stronger than herc, why cant Hulk and Juggs lift as much as superman

Originally posted by savagerampage
I know thor is a myth as well. But if hercules can lift planets, and he gets his ass smoked by hulk, Juggernaut etc, and they are clearly stronger than herc, why cant Hulk and Juggs lift as much as superman

Because Zeus depowered him. 😉

You overestimating Juggernaut. Juggernaut is incredibly strong however he's not as strong as Hulk or Hercules or Superman. Wanna know why Hercules is largely ineffective against Juggernaut? Because of his impenetrable forcefield. Which NULLIFIES any physical attacks. No matter how strong you are, the forcefield nullifies it. Which is why Hercules always loses.

But when they fight, and are tossing things, juggernaut always over powers him, forcefeild or not.

Originally posted by savagerampage
But when they fight, and are tossing things, juggernaut always over powers him, forcefeild or not.

As I said before, Hercules is DEPOWERED. And even if he were at full strength I doubt his blows would have ANY effect.

i know that draco. But alot of people underestimate juggernaut, he is easily superior to thor etc in strength, as there battles have shown. a fully powered juggernaut, would easily be above, superman, and all those, example trion juggernaut

Originally posted by savagerampage
i know that draco. But alot of people underestimate juggernaut, he is easily superior to thor etc in strength, as there battles have shown. a fully powered juggernaut, would easily be above, superman, and all those, example trion juggernaut

His not his strength that overpowers Thor. It's his forcefield. Everything you throw at him is completely ineffective. Godforce blasts don't even dent him.

Draco im talking about, when they are fighting, in terms of ripping and lifting things during a fight, juggernaut has always been able to outlift whoever he is fighting/

BECAUSE of his forcefield. When you're completely indestructible and completely invulnerable to all attacks then of course you're going to "outfight" anyone you come across.

And let's not forget he got stuck in things like mountains and cement pits. He took MONTHS to get out of there. You say he's stronger than Superman. Superman(without his flight and speed) would get out in seconds.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Doomsday can resurrect stronger than the opponent that killed him, so he hasn't got a limit actually

he regenerates more durable than his previous incarnation.... not necessarily stronger

<<But if hercules can lift planets, and he gets his ass smoked by hulk, Juggernaut etc,>>

eh? ass smoked by hulk?? only time that ever happened was when he was depowered. in the book from which i so proudly take my quote, herc was doing just fine, and in a much older book (i want to say tales to astonish but it don't think that was it) herc was getting the better of hulk. course, neither fight ended conclusively. they were close enough to say herc did not get smoked however. are dc's gods stronger/weaker than marvel's? can't really say. since i'm a marvel herc fan, i'll say he's the stronger version, hence he may be stronger than diana. c'mon, look at the quote!! hehe. and he didn't simply hold the 'earth' for atlas. he held the 'heavens' - that is all the sky (translated in places as the universe!) atlas is said to be the reason the sky doesn't fall. damn i love herc . . . .

i still say it will boil down to who's writing and what the situation is. in a given issue, any of the aforementioned guys could win against the other - and most HAVE. oh, and i'd add supreme (the original) to this list and perhaps at the top of it. he was beating glads pretty badly for much of that x-over.

Everyone forgot Thanos 😕