Originally posted by XplosiveWait a sec...since when does Apocalypse represent ALL of evil? Sure there's a lot of evil in him, but evil is spread around and comes in many different forms.
Yes, Beast say, evil will take only another form, well, it didn't beacause Apocalypse returned again.
Originally posted by MainstreamNo, Cable's perception of ultimate evil was Apocalypse...due to their history. Beast simply meant that if you eliminate Apocalypse, then evil would take another form. Meaning something else would enter your life or another situation would arise where you're once again confronted with evil. Evil cannot be totally wiped out...there exists a balance between good and evil.
Beast meant that Apocalypse would take another form trust me on this.
Originally posted by XplosiveIt may have said that...but that doesn't make it true...especially when there are beings like Moon Dragon, Supreme Intelligence, etc. Those were notable omissions.
In Beyond good and Evil, it is said, most powerful psyhic in the universe, no notable absence, but it was said, most pwoerufl psyhic in the universe. But I always say that is cartoon Apocalypse, comic Apocalypse hasn't proven to be to knees to cartoon Apocalypse. Cartoon is simpy much higher level.
Originally posted by XplosiveThere is absolutely no evidence to suggest that...all logic points in the opposite direction, considering the villains Thor has taken down in the past.
But also or even comic Apocalypse would take Thor down conivincingly.
You: Wait a sec...since when does Apocalypse represent ALL of evil? Sure there's a lot of evil in him, but evil is spread around and comes in many different forms.
Me: THAT is also crap. he's a being, not an entity. he has to hop from host to host to survive. he's not a concept. By defeating Apocalypse you're not destroying evil, you're destroying an infinitely small part of evil.
You: Beast simply meant that if you eliminate Apocalypse, then evil would take another form. Meaning something else would enter your life or another situation would arise where you're once again confronted with evil. Evil cannot be totally wiped out...there exists a balance between good and evil.
Me: Evil and Good are abstract notions even in the Marvel Universe. Apocalypse is most definitely not an incarnation of evil. If you ask me, serial killers in America are worse than the guy. He IS evil, VERY evil, but that doesn't make him a proxie of the concept.
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Originally posted by Xplosive
I think Apocalypse is one of the most evil beings ever creted in Marvel Universe, you cannot negotiate with him, if he will, he will betray you and try to kill you later. He is evil to the core, He is more evil than Thanos, imagine if Apocalypse would succed in Heart of the Universe, I don't think he would gave up this pwoer, he would make LT his slave and all others. Apocalypse donesn't need host body to surive (his essence will live), he won't die, it was thought Cable finally shattertd his essene forever, well guess Apocalypse is coming back.
Evil?
In evil:
Carnage > Apocalypse
Magus > Apocalypse
Thor has more raw power than apocalypse, he is the son of Odin hello, Thor is stronger,durable, and a better fighter and he has more power than apocalypse like the godforce blast which kills anything on impact even immortals. Apocalypse is overrated what has he done lately he gets his ass kicked by the xmen,eternals,cable the list goes on. Thor has fought Odin, zeus, juggernaut, hercules, adam warlock, celestial (areimesh), airwalker, gladiator, destroyer, sutur, loki, thanos, bloodaxe, midgard serpent, forgotten one, ulik, mangog, savage hulk, beta ray bill, hela, galactus, eternals, silver surfer, infinity watch, demolisher, absorbing man,dark gods, desak, kang the list goes on and half these people on the list will kick apocalypse ass. Thor owns apocalypse and will send his ass to the after life again.
Originally posted by Mider
You all dont know anything Thor is just a superman rip off He would die against Apocalypse.
🤨 How is thor a superman rip off! That is just plain stupid thor is a mythical person he is a god of thunder. Dude you just sound stupid just even saying that. Anyways you don't know sh** what you are talking about, apocalypse can't even beat the xmen what makes you think he can beat thor. Thor will f**king hit him with the godforce blast or ***** slap him with the hammer or unleashed his full godly powers on apocalypse. Apocalypse is so overrated it is not even funny, he hasn't done sh**, xmen, cable, strfye, magneto have own his sorry ass, hell he was affraid of onslaught. Thor will punk his ass like the xmen have been doing for the past 20 years.
Very True
Originally posted by the Darkone
🤨 How is thor a superman rip off! That is just plain stupid thor is a mythical person he is a god of thunder. Dude you just sound stupid just even saying that. Anyways you don't know sh** what you are talking about, apocalypse can't even beat the xmen what makes you think he can beat thor. Thor will f**king hit him with the godforce blast or ***** slap him with the hammer or unleashed his full godly powers on apocalypse. Apocalypse is so overrated it is not even funny, he hasn't done sh**, xmen, cable, strfye, magneto have own his sorry ass, hell he was affraid of onslaught. Thor will punk his ass like the xmen have been doing for the past 20 years.
😄 Thor wins
Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor has more raw power than apocalypse, he is the son of Odin hello, Thor is stronger,durable, and a better fighter and he has more power than apocalypse like the godforce blast which kills anything on impact even immortals. Apocalypse is overrated what has he done lately he gets his ass kicked by the xmen,eternals,cable the list goes on. Thor has fought Odin, zeus, juggernaut, hercules, adam warlock, celestial (areimesh), airwalker, gladiator, destroyer, sutur, loki, thanos, bloodaxe, midgard serpent, forgotten one, ulik, mangog, savage hulk, beta ray bill, hela, galactus, eternals, silver surfer, infinity watch, demolisher, absorbing man,dark gods, desak, kang the list goes on and half these people on the list will kick apocalypse ass. Thor owns apocalypse and will send his ass to the after life again.
Apocalypse is stronger, more powerful and more durable. Apocalypse owns him, destroys him.
man what the hell is it with these apocalypse forums, looks like even surfer is slippin from the top slot of havin the most ridiculous fanboys because of ensabuh nur, jeez, does any1 in here really believe that thor can be beaten down by a third rate wannabe worl conquerer? and please, the only superman ripoff in the marvel universe is gladiater, no one else{not sentry and DEFINATELY not thor}
Apoc has run away from more characters, more fights and more potential beatings than any other character in comic book history.
Namor threw a table at him, and he ran away.
Ooooh! Scary power-desk!
He is strong, durable and has morphing abilities with some decent stolen tech.
Thor is one of the strongest beings in the universe, weilds one of the most powerful weapons in the universe, has access to crazy amounts of mystical energy, his hammer has an almost infinite number of uses and powers.
Come on guys. There were way more powerful mutant characters that Marvel could have used to try and create an uber-villain. They could have used Proteus, Mutant Alpha, Nuklo, Orphan Maker (who they started a scary possible future plot with, and then dropped it).
Even Holocaust could have been more powerful, and cooler than Apoc.
I am just tired of Marvel writers and fans trying to turn Apoc into something that his stats say he isn't.
I can name a dozen Marvel villains that are 10 times as dangerous, (proven), as Apoc.
He cannot beat Thor.
But, he does have big lips. That has to count for something.