Similarities between Arda and Earth
There are a few things that I noticed in LotR that are similar to our world. First off, Melkor and Lucifer have a similar back round. Both were very powerful that turned evil. Also, the final battle between Manwe and Morgoth sounds like Judgment Day.
Another thing is how Numeanor is like Atlantis; powerful kingdoms that were swallowed by the sea.
Feel free to post any thoughts on these and other similarities.
At least Morgoth curses Turins sword ^^
... Well, NW-ME looks like europe, Southerland like Africa. Its round, it has an aequator-thing, it has absolutely similar climatic zones, there are living things on it, there are totally similar living things on it, there are the same plants on it, both are called earth, both have the same gravity, both have sun and moon, both work the same way... yea... actually, they are the same...
Similarities?...dude, they're the same thing..arda and earth...just dif names...😄....i'm not crazy m:e DOES exist...in my head
but seriously...
the southrons seem like indian...middle=eastern people to me..or maybee egyptian/african(by the way i love ancient egypt and learn everything i can on it..🙂)
Elves wild men are kinda neanderthall types..umm...
Gandalf is a wizard
Bilbo is a hobbit
About the egyptian thing - Tolkien rather compared the Gondorians and the Númenóreans to the egyptians... there are actually really many similarities between them
especially in their way of thinking and how they handle death and things like that
the crown of Gondor also was supposed to look like the egyptian one 😉
the Sun is called Anar, not Ainur... ainur are the gods... and one of them, Arien, is in Anor...
lol 😛
Flat? Yea it was... until the gods changed that 😛 and made it round... "a straight road went westward, now all roads are crooked" (litterally)
... as does the fact that Imbar, the World, is the centre of the universe 😛 and the stars are also round the world... and there are several spheres 😄 though the stars arent fixed on the spheres like Aristoteles' and Ptolemaius' ideas of how the universe thing works
Yes. Since Tolkien heavily based Middle-earth upon certain events, places, and peoples of our world, many similarities would exist. One similarity was the dread caused by war. The reactions of the Rohirrim and the Gondorians are similar to our reactions because we are all human. We all share certain characteristics and personality traits that make us act in very similar ways. You cannot say the same thing about the Elves, though. They are a "humanoid" race, ergo we would share some characteristics, but not as many as we share with our counterparts, the Edain. They react to situations differently, because that is how they were "made," as a race. They were intended to react differently, ergo, they do.
Also, the social and political structure of Rohan and Gondor, resemble the feudal structure of medieval times.
The Rohirrim resemble the Goths in their largely unsettled horse-raising lifestyle (and have more Goth-y names during their early history), the Normans in their military tactics and hardware, but the Anglo-Saxons in their later names (eg. Eomer who was a Saxon assassin).
The Elves have languages based on Finnish (Quenya) and Welsh (Sindarin) and are distantly related to the Sidhe of Irish legend. However, they are also great city builders (at least the Noldor) like the Romans etc.
The Numenoreans resemble Egyptians with their whole tomb-obsession thing, the Romans again in their empire-building episodes, the legend of Atlantis in Numenor itself and perhaps the Byzantines by the end of the 3rd age, being the remenants of a once-great empire, though bizarrely Faramir and Boromir's names appear to be Polish in form.
The Dwarves have Viking names (and so, of course, does Gandalf), though these were apparently based on mannish names from the Dale area, as Dwarves keep their real names secret.
The Hobbits remind one of rural or Edwardian and Victorian England, they're too peaceful but have some quite advanced technology (clocks, umbrellas, etc.).
Also, the Angerthas and Tengwar alphabets are slightly modified versions of Saxon runic and scriptic alphabets.
Originally posted by sauron
manwe doesnt 'fight' melkorhe simply commands those that do
turin kills melkor
Much as Suaron doesn't fight the people of Gondor and Rohan, he just commands those that do.
... Well, NW-ME looks like europe, Southerland like Africa.
Precisely!!! I've seen tonnes of people who speculate that either Tolkien or Jackson are racists instead of realizing the obvious truth: That there just were no black people in that part of the world at that time.
Originally posted by sauron
yes FVJ the difference is sauron DID fight some people in first age...then alot of people in second 😛manwe never fights, hes just boring
I second that quote...All the live long day he just sits there listening to poetry and song from Ingwe Malmstein...haha
Manwe: Ooh! Can you sing me that song you wrote the other day? Ingwe my favoritest of all the elves.
Ingwe: Why sure o' great and most powerful one who I'm sure by now has butt sore from sitting far longer than most can endure Manwe. 😛