Originally posted by olympian
The top heroes? Alright ill bite.(7) Herakles: Definatly not the weakest physically of the list but the weakest in overall abilities. Higly durable but a too much ground worker and the fact in comics he doesnt pack the weapons he had in the myths, make it hurt in the overall powerchat list. He is however the most skilled here together with WW and Thor.
(6) Hulk : Why Hulk here and not Herc you say? They always stalemated. Well Hulk has one advantage over ol herc. His powerset in comics allows him to go above any of this guys in this list in strenght. What hurts him? His limited by his rage and doesnt get into that levels often. His healing ability its a nice touch tho and higher than anyone else in this chart.
(5) Wonder Woman : The "weakest" in raw strenght of the list after Silver Surfer ( before he amps himself ). Altho less durable than the rest, she gets above the others due the fact she has better equipment and abilities to play with. Her figthing skills in martial arts are also a great addition and above any of the list.
(4) Superman : Physically strong as the strongest here, its his overall great abilities that makes him goes up in my list. Speed, strenght and a high durability are his greatest assets. What hurts him its the fact hes not that skilled at all compared with some here.
(3) Captain Marvel : And here its the contraversy, with kudos from me. Hes above Superman in my list. A magical being, that never fails to match Superman. The fact he has the advantage toe to toe makes it together with others abilities a killing combo. What hurts its exactly what makes him interesting. The fact hes a teen and naive. Hes the most durable here aside Silver Surfer.
(2) Thor : Psysically powerful to hang out with any of them. Both his hammer and - own inate abilities - makes him one of the most powerful around. Having the most badass and powerful rogues gallery of any of them speaks for itself.
(1) Silver Surfer : Yeah you heard me. While the weakest physically before starting to amp itself, he is without a doubt the most durable, the one with the stronger versability, the fastest, the one with more firepower, more chances to defeat the others. Doesnt mean he cant get beat. But overall hes above any of these beings.
VERY GOOD LIST but i would switch hulk with wonderwomen and if i were to enter gladiaotor everyone above no 2 would move down in scale as Glads will go as number 2.
Top Ten heroes
1. Takion- No one without some serious power ups is ****ing with him.
2. Hal Jordan/Silver Surfer- So very versatile and powerful
3. Flash- Flash would beat most people before they blink
4. Orion- Dog of War, uber Strong, And wielder of the Astro Force
5. Thor/BRB- hammers and skill and power
6. Martian Manhunter- Non jobbing, he probably wouldn't lose to most people on this list, but he lacks wide area Dmg
7. Superman- The Strongest Being in comics on the hero Side, with uber invulnerability and speed.
8. Wonder Woman- She's as skilled as Thor and Orion, with Planet Pulling strength, Light Speed, the Best reflexes in comics, and uber magical Weapons. She lacks wide area Dmg so she can only pull the Number 8 spot.
9. Sersi- Arguably the most powerful Aveneger ever, she was able to even transmute Thor. She's an eternal with the best Matter manip this side of element lad. She has uber Tp, Able to amp herself up to be strong enough to Knock out even immortal Herc.
10. Fire Storm/Senty- Not many people have the power to take on either of these two.
5. The Hulk
WWH has shown us just how powerful this guy is, he took down Black bolt, iron man, all the x-men at once, the juggernaut, and hercules. not to mention the entire us army.
4. Doctor Strange
His power set pretty much consists of anything his current writer can imagine. He has fought and bested gods, and cosmic enemies... and yes, hulk beat him in WWH, but strange wasn't trying to kill him before his hands got broken.
3. Superman
what power doesn't this guy have?
2. Silver Surfer
Power cosmic...nuff said
1.Thor
He's beat the surfer before, while holding back and with the surfer's powers augmented by Loki
I'd say...
1. Silver Surfer - One badass cosmic entity...can amp to beyond most and potentially limitless resources/endurance.
2. Flash - Insane what the Flash is capable of..but again not the brightest.
3. Hulk - only character with purely unlimited Strength, with a sick Durability + Regen combo. Dumb as a rock, but you never go toe to toe with him.
4. Captain Marvel - see Superman, but with Magical endowed powers
5. Amazo - LOTS o' powers. This guy is tough.
6. Superman - Built to be greatest earth hero, not the brightest but in posession of some of the highest base power levels around.
7. Thor - One word...Godly.
8. Sentry - very powerful but lacks feats.
9. Martian Manhunter - Pretty freakin awesome combo of abilities.
10 Dr. Strange - Pretty Limitless what this guy is capable of.
but honestly - there is too much greatness in comics to accurately place in any "top ten".
Originally posted by Almighty BauerDarkseid isnt a hero.
5. Superman. I know he's too good to be true, a boy scout boring softy, but Supes has good powers. I mean, this bloke can use freeze- breath, laser vision, x- ray, he can fly and has super strength! A really strong hero.4. Batman! i know loads of people will disagree but Bats has the Kryptonitee Ring that Clark gave him and would weaken Clark. Also he worked out all the ways to beat the JLA, as displayed in Tower of Babel.
3. Martian Manhunter. This guy has way better powers than Clark and could read Bruce's mind, foresee his attacks and fly up, using heat vision from distance to beat him! It would be a close run thing with Supes but Manhunter's telepathy would help him win through!
2. Darkseid. As the ruler of Apokalips, this guy could probably annihalate Superman and though Batman has brains, this guy would blast him, or even Superman, to shreds! Same for Manhunter...
1. Green Lantern (Ion, Kyle Rayner). With his godly powers, Kyle is only restricyed from destroying the World wit will power! He could have unlimated power and beat even Darkseid, though it could be a cracker. GL would just blast DS with full, unbeatable ring power!!!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Top Ten heroes1. Takion- No one without some serious power ups is ****ing with him.
2. Hal Jordan/Silver Surfer- So very versatile and powerful
3. Flash- Flash would beat most people before they blink
4. Orion- Dog of War, uber Strong, And wielder of the Astro Force
5. Thor/BRB- hammers and skill and power
6. Martian Manhunter- Non jobbing, he probably wouldn't lose to most people on this list, but he lacks wide area Dmg
7. Superman- The Strongest Being in comics on the hero Side, with uber invulnerability and speed.
8. Wonder Woman- She's as skilled as Thor and Orion, with Planet Pulling strength, Light Speed, the Best reflexes in comics, and uber magical Weapons. She lacks wide area Dmg so she can only pull the Number 8 spot.
9. Sersi- Arguably the most powerful Aveneger ever, she was able to even transmute Thor. She's an eternal with the best Matter manip this side of element lad. She has uber Tp, Able to amp herself up to be strong enough to Knock out even immortal Herc.
10. Fire Storm/Senty- Not many people have the power to take on either of these two.
What the hell? Please tell me how Flash is going to harm anyone on this list with most of them being able to take planet busting shots? Not to forget that a lot of them have FTL feats. Since most people on this list (Other then Flash, Wondy and Sersi) are in Supes ballpark strengthwise, and we saw what Supes does to Wondy when he isn't holding back. And Surfer should be below Thor. Thor won all three of their fights.
Re: Top Super Heroes vs Top Super Heroes
Originally posted by dawsey28
www.silver-surfer.us/Top10list/Top10List.htmSo I have been using this list in to support arguments in threads. But even I have to admit that the list is somewhat flawed. First of all it is outdated. It was made in 1997. Sinse then characters have been upgraded, degraded, awakened from the dead and lost weaknesses.
Not to mention I was questionning some of the placements on the list back in '97. [I had a hard time seeing how hulk could defeat Gladiator, Captain marvel (Shazam), Green Lantern (Kyle rayner), and invisible Woman who were ALL on the runner-up list.] I felt that the Wizard staff had some fanboyism going on.
Secondly, some of the characters were not aloud on the list. Cosmic beings and gods of higher order were not counted. (I understand that, though. Some of these characters have a rediculous amount of power.)
In addition to that, I think they didn't give some characters enough credit. Martian Manhunter? He was on the runner-up because at that time he had that pesky fire weakness. But even with that weakness, I thought he could be higher on the list ABOVE Superman. Currently he isn't as weak to fire as he was in '97. Now I'm damn near positive that he'd be above Superman. Gladiator was on the runner-up list due to his confidence weakness. Although I could argue that the confidence thing is hardly worth mentioning. (He fought Surfer without losing confidence and Surfer is at the top of the list.)
And lastly, they used speedblitzing as a means to end some fights. Sure, in theory, Flash could run in and pound Dr. Strange before Strange could do anything but... couldn't doc strange trap Flash in another dimention? It's possible for strange to win that match.
[B]So here's your chance. You decide who the most powerful comic book heroes are. Lets only make it 5. (Unless you just want to do 10.)
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Originally posted by dawsey28
To keep this in the VS forums, use this format. (Like the one on the list)Just copy and paste. (oh yeah and lets keep them current. okay.)
WHY HE'S #5:
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WHY HE'S #4:VS. #5:
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WHY HE'S #3:VS. #5:
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WHY HE'S #2:VS. #5:
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WHY HE'S #1:VS. #5:
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5. Flash
WHY HE'S #5: His speed is tops and has numerous other abilities, but he can't fly. Addtionally, from the little I've read of him, I haven't seen any Flash do half the stuff some on here claim he can do. (I could be wrong)
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4. Green Lantern (Hal)
WHY HE'S #4: Super versatile and can handle pretty much anything, but is limited by need to charge ring. Will eventually have to powerup against top tiers
VS. #5: He can take fight to air and locate/neutralize Flash with Ring.
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3. Silver Surfer
WHY HE'S #3: Probably highest level of potential and crazy power set, but fights like an idiot and is too passive.
VS. #5: Can hang with Flash in speed department, and is more powerful
VS. #4: These two are pretty much equal IMO, but Silver Surfer has a larger storage of power
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2. Thor/Captain Marvel
Why They're #2: They are both extremely powerful, strong, durable and versatile. They can hang with speedsters and fight hard as hell. Their magical properties give them the edge against most.
VS. #5: They can handle his speed, and put him down in a variety of other ways.
VS. #4: Would be tough fight, but these guys can out last Hal
VS. #3: Surfer probably should be able to take them, but again Surfer fights like a moron.
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1. Superman
WHY HE'S #1: Because when it comes down to it, and all the cards are on the table, I just think Superman can take anything, and dish out even more.
VS. #5: Can def keep up with Flash, take anything he has to offer, and put him down hard.
VS. #4: Can have a lot of trouble with GL especially because GL knows his weaknesses and can expose them. However, I believe if these 2 ever really threw down Supes would take him. Too fast, strong and durable.
VS. #3: Same as GL, but Supes has superior fighting speed and if he gets the upper hand first, he'll unleash too much physical punishment.
VS. #2: Both these guys can put Supes down. I actually think it's an even split here.
Honorable Mentions:
1. Wonder Woman
2. Dr. Strange/Fate
3. Beta Ray Bill
4. Current Hulk
5. Firestorm (Ronnie)
6. Green Lantern (Kyle)
7. Martian Manhunter
I'm sure there are other, but just can't think of them right now.