Pot is not as safe as some people think!

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Didn't say that did I? I said that there are people in this world and throughout history who have over-indulged pot to severe degrees and not died. The same cannot be said for cigarettes wholly.

-AC

Whatever there are no long term human studies to identify these sorts of things AC. So you are just stating your beliefs on this subject because there is no scientific proof to back it up.

"I said that there are people in this world and throughout history who have over-indulged pot to severe degrees and not died."

Yup and I simply illustrated that people can abuse anything and not show symptoms of illness however that may not be the norm..............so refer to my first comment in regards to your excess statement........

Originally posted by soleran30
LOL yeah I know several people that smoke 1-2 packs of marlboro red packs a day and are just fine today. However thats not the norm anytime you radically alter your "state" chemicals then there are sideaffects...........................your belief is just that, its certainly not based on anything scientific.

will you quit comparing it to cigarettes? someone being 'just fine' after a life of 2 packs a day is rare. not that it all leads to cancer, but almost always f***s with your lungs and heart. it is not rare at all to experience absolutely zero negative effets to your long term health from pot. you are comparing a mountain to an anthill.

Originally posted by soleran30
Whatever there are no long term human studies to identify these sorts of things AC. So you are just stating your beliefs on this subject because there is no scientific proof to back it up.

"I said that there are people in this world and throughout history who have over-indulged pot to severe degrees and not died."

Yup and I simply illustrated that people can abuse anything and not show symptoms of illness however that may not be the norm..............so refer to my first comment in regards to your excess statement........

What do you mean not using scientific fact to back it up? How clearer do you want it? The "negative" side-effects aren't exactly life threatening or anywhere close, so I don't personally regard them as negative. They're not positive but that doesn't mean they warrant the negative tag. Negative, to me, is lung cancer and death, major health decline.

Seeing as pot has some properties that HELP ease pain, I'll consider it a positive substance.

-AC

Originally posted by PVS
will you quit comparing it to cigarettes? someone being 'just fine' after a life of 2 packs a day is rare. not that it all leads to cancer, but almost always f***s with your lungs and heart. it is not rare at all to experience absolutely zero negative effets to your long term health from pot. you are comparing a mountain to an anthill.

Yeah and I am not referring to the occasional joint or bong hit I was commenting on excesive use for years and years of pot use................

What's the worst that can happen from excessive pot use for years and years through smoking? Not much at all. Through other means such as eating? None.

Tobacco? Death.

End of argument I think.

-AC

Originally posted by soleran30
Yeah and I am not referring to the occasional joint or bong hit I was commenting on excesive use for years and years of pot use................

so am i. in fact thats exactly what i was referring to.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What's the worst that can happen from excessive pot use for years and years through smoking? Not much at all. Through other means such as eating? None.

Tobacco? Death.

End of argument I think.

-AC

thats your belief still...................there is no medical studies done to say that excessive use of pot doesn't cause harm either............whatever........

Originally posted by soleran30
thats your belief still...................there is no medical studies done to say that excessive use of pot doesn't cause harm either............whatever........

so your logic seems to be to assume that there probably is.

pot has been scrutinised for almost a century and still no proof of serious longterm damage, dispite all the time and money poured into research.
you argue as if pot was just discovered yesterday

Pot is worse than tobacco on your lungs and also diminishes your short term memory and effects audio comprehension learning.... 📖

Though I don't see it really effecting much with occasional use.

Originally posted by soleran30
Yeah and I am not referring to the occasional joint or bong hit I was commenting on excesive use for years and years of pot use................

Where's an example where excesive use of Mary Jane caused physical/debilitating harm?

AC, I don't believe weed-induced munchies cause habitual over-eating, or for that matter, medical eating disorders. Look at Snoop Dogg; that vato is skinny as f*ck, and his bloodtype is probably THC.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Pot is worse than tobacco on your lungs and also diminishes your short term memory and effects audio comprehension learning.... 📖

Thats why you should eat special brownies, and dont do it before school. 😉

i recommend this as a safer, more productive alternative

Originally posted by Clovie
if it was perfectly safe it would be legal 😬

The same can be said about alcohol oh wait people die of liver disease and suffer a lot more from being an Alcoholic than a dope fiend.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Thats why you should eat special brownies, and dont do it before school. 😉

Though if you have home economics (cooking) after getting high at lunch.....WHOA!! ......You'll just eat unadulterated brownies...

Originally posted by Darth_Midal
The same can be said about alcohol oh wait people die of liver disease and suffer a lot more from being an Alcoholic than a dope fiend.

Over use can also cause internal bleeding, and effect almost every system and organ............. 🙁

[/B][/QUOTE]Over use can also cause internal bleeding, and effect almost every system and organ............. 🙁 [/B][/QUOTE]

Which are you referring to????

Originally posted by Darth_Midal

Which are you referring to???? [/QUOTE] Alcohol.....Lots of studies on it which I never new about.........But that's for over use.

Thats because alcohol deteriorates the esophagus and the lining of the stomach.

Originally posted by soleran30
thats your belief still...................there is no medical studies done to say that excessive use of pot doesn't cause harm either............whatever........

You're over-shooting the mark. That's not the point, the point is that whether it does have negative side effects or not (and cases/common knowledge of the drug points to no) it's still so minute that it's not harmful and the labelling of them as negative is just your personal view that it's a bad thing. Harm is factual, negative is subjective. You believing it has negative effects is up to you, it being harmful is not, and signs point to no. I'm not gonna assume there is, because there's no evidence to suggest so. There IS evidence to suggest it's harmless.

-AC

Originally posted by debbiejo
Over use can also cause internal bleeding, and effect almost every system and organ............. 🙁

Which are you referring to???? [/QUOTE] Alcohol.....Lots of studies on it which I never new about.........But that's for over use. [/QUOTE]

Alcohol is one of the most deadly things people can become addicted to and having seen first hand what it can do I think it should be made Illegal. When was the last time you saw a stoner have a fist fight because he was high last i checked we vedged out on the couch laughing at south park and understanding the movie Half Baked.

Originally posted by PVS
so your logic seems to be to assume that there probably is.

pot has been scrutinised for almost a century and still no proof of serious longterm damage, dispite all the time and money poured into research.
you argue as if pot was just discovered yesterday

Yeah my logic is that excessive use of pot has a higher then not probability of causing harm to an individual over a long period of time.

Seeing as how pot is illegal I have yet to see a 20 year human study done on this as has been done with cigarettes.

Yeah know what help me out here to understand your point.............point me in the right direction to a 20 year clinical study that shows some proper variable and controls in the testing and the results and we can see where that takes us....................otherwise I keep hearing the same thing over and over.............alcohol has LT side affects, cigarettes have LT side affects and they have studies to prove it now show me a serious study about pot so I can say yeah ok pot doesn't have any LT negative effects because we have a serious study with labratory science to prove that.