Originally posted by illadelph12Covered that already in the JLA/Avengers thread..
Krona is a bit more than simply a Guardian...
All of them are powerful. Any of them individually easily ranks in the upper tier of DC.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5109074
But Krona was especially powerful, he whooped Galactus, then captured Lord of Order Kismet, and Eternity, who are the characters that are essences of their perspective universes, and Grandmaster with the artifacts [Cosmic cubes, Worloggog, Spear of Destiny, Infinity Gauntlet, etc.].
Originally posted by Juntai
Covered that already in the JLA/Avengers thread..All of them are powerful. Any of them individually easily ranks in the upper tier of DC.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5109074But Krona was especially powerful, he whooped Galactus, then captured Lord of Order Kismet, and Eternity, who are the characters that are essences of their perspective universes, and Grandmaster with the artifacts [Cosmic cubes, Worloggog, Spear of Destiny, Infinity Gauntlet, etc.].
So the fact that Krona was a former Guardian that was condemned to becoming an energy being after the Crisis and then had his powers exponentially amplified by Nekron and became a being of Entropy had nothing to do with Krona's power levels when he fought Galactus?
Krona was far, far, far above a normal Guardian at the time of JLA/Avengers.
In the same story he'd already dessimated numerous dimensions leading up to his confrontation with Galactus, who's power level was not quantified before the ensuing conflict.
Now, granted, Krona was able to entrap Kismet and Eternity as well, but to say Krona is simply a Guardian, even an "Evil Guardian", is to extremely downplay what he was at the time of the crossover.
Originally posted by illadelph12When did I say he was 'simply a guardian', at any point? I made a brief mention about his history in that "he was a guardian of the universe, before he went crazy.", and already said he was more powerful than they were. What are you trying to prove a point to yourself with my post as a reference?
So the fact that Krona was a former Guardian that was condemned to becoming an energy being after the Crisis and then had his powers exponentially amplified by [b]Nekron and became a being of Entropy had nothing to do with Krona's power levels when he fought Galactus?Krona was far, far, far above a normal Guardian at the time of JLA/Avengers.
In the same story he'd already dessimated numerous dimensions leading up to his confrontation with Galactus, who's power level was not quantified before the ensuing conflict.
Now, granted, Krona was able to entrap Kismet and Eternity as well, but to say Krona is simply a Guardian, even an "Evil Guardian", is to extremely downplay what he was at the time of the crossover. [/B]
Originally posted by Juntai
When did I say he was 'simply a guardian', at any point? I made a brief mention about his history in that "he was a guardian of the universe, before he went crazy.", and already said he was more powerful than they were. What are you trying to prove a point to yourself with my post as a reference?
No, I was not seeking to single out your comment and engage in an exchange, I was simply using your comment as a point of reference and submitting more in depth background info as to why, as you say:
"All of them [Guardians] are powerful. Any of them individually easily ranks in the upper tier of DC......But Krona was especially powerful...".
His powers are not simply attributed to his being a 'Guardian', but you did fail to make that distinction, though knowing you it was not intentional. I've seen many people around here assume that since Krona, who was a Guardian, defeated Galactus, that all Guardians are abstract buster level beings, so I wanted to clarify the facts of the occurence.
Normal Krona was a Malthusian scientist, and a group of Malthusians became the Guardians after Krona caused the Crisis and his race split off into different factions due to differing ideals (The Guardians being one of the factions).
JLA/Avengers Krona was a Nekron enhanced being of Entropy; a Guardian level being exponentially enhanced.
I have the Galactus/Krona fight in my ONLY Jla/Avengers issue , unluckily enough i don have a scanner.
But it stank of cis and pis. Krona just pulled Galactus from a plothole and galactus was like 'WTF where am i' and Krona was all 'Tell me the secrets of the universe' , galactus replied with 'Galactus does not deal with Mad-men . Krona then got pissed and started choking the shit out of galactus and pouring on the eye beams before killing him.
Krona had the power of every thing that he destroyed which was countless universes (so he claimed in the cross over)... If this was true, which I assume it was, I don't think it would matter if Galactus ate 100 planets Krona looked as if he would have defeated him no matter what, to say that Galactus wasn't at full power or in optimal condition is hearsay.
He was mugged once, and I think he would be mugged again.
"TELL ME... TELL ME NOWWW"! Sorry I had to get that off of my chest. 😄