<<Thor is not more powerful then CM,>.
i'll respectfully disagree. herc and thor are equals in strength, CM has SOME of herc's strength so thor is stronger and the more experienced AND he has his hammer. current supes is more powerful than CM and thor is for all intents and purposes, equal to supes.
course, that's not the issue. thor would beat BA (be a great battle though!!) so, in my opinion, he would dispatch BA post-haste!
No, Captain Marvel has all of Herc's strength. Hercules is stronger then Thor. He also has the Stamina of Atlas who held the whole world in his shoulders.
Captain Marvel is superhumanly strong, possessing the Strength of Hercules. He can easily lift cars, trucks, and even heavy aircraft over his head without straining. While not as strong as Superman, he is definitely on par with the Man of Steel and those at the top of the 'muscle' heap. In more quantifiable terms, at full power Captain Marvel can lift in the area of 195,000 tons without significant effort, and maintain it for at least twenty hours or more, before tiring extensively.
<<No, Captain Marvel has all of Herc's strength. Hercules is stronger then Thor. He also has the Stamina of Atlas who held the whole world in his shoulders.>>
he has an 'aspect' of herc's power. read the herc threads and the CM threads. it's too long to go into again. or just ask draco69 - he'll be delighted to prove it to you.
and even supposing he WAS as strong as herc, nefaria would still demolish him. the guy wrecked wonderman and atlas at the same time, ALONG with all the avengers and t-bolts. he's not always treated as such, but he's a higher order villain.
Originally posted by leonidas
and even supposing he WAS as strong as herc, nefaria would still demolish him. the guy wrecked wonderman and atlas at the same time, ALONG with all the avengers and t-bolts. he's not always treated as such, but he's a higher order villain.
I think Count Nefaria would win, but in the specified scenario, Wonderman and Atlas were being controlled by Nefaria based on their ionic energy (that he had control of) and was using them when he was taking on the others.
Originally posted by leonidas
yep, apologies, you are correct about that point. WM and atlas never DID get in on the fight against him, but they were put out very early (in the t-bolt issue) and CN had to take on all the others alone.still doesn't change my overall point - CN wins. pretty easily.
If I remember correctly around that time, Vision alone took Atlas and Wonder Man out by increasing his density and falling on top of them. LOL. Of course, they were vital in stopping Count Nefaria's concentration of ionic energy to make him again vulnerable to the others.
<<If I remember correctly around that time, Vision alone took Atlas and Wonder Man out by increasing his density and falling on top of them. LOL. Of course, they were vital in stopping Count Nefaria's concentration of ionic energy to make him again vulnerable to the others.>>
ha! you've got a good memory. ironic, that, since it was the way he beat helped beat CN the FIRST time the avengers battled him! now THAT was a classic . . .