Topher Grace is one of the villains in Spider-Man 3!!!!

Started by Gen-1173 pages

by the way, can anyone explain Sandman in USM for me? i haven't seen him in it

sandman in USM came up in the ultimate six series...the story went into the ultimates story line...
sandman was released from his cell by the shield agents...and he went on battling with spidey...the fight was ended when the doctors that worked on the sandman project shot sandman unconcious...then later on he worked together with osborn, ock, kraven, and electro...went on rampage for a while...but then was beaten by iron man and ended up in jars

so, weve seen ock and osborn, and sandman is looking to be a big fat yes. the 2 other villains could be kraven and electro?

but i don't think topher would be the sandman...he's not rough or big enough...

Originally posted by VeNoIIvII
Well guys, I dont know if this site is right, but it is coming from a very good source, and here is what it says :

Who are the villains of Spider-Man 3?

The villains for "Spider-Man 3" will be Venom and Man-Wolf, at least according to a report on the PressConnects.com website.

I do know that Venom is supposed to be a part of the next movie, and since Daniel Gillies is coming back to play John Jameson/Man-Wolf (he told me he's returning for sure), I guess it's safe to say that Thomas Haden Church, who they announced for a role, will be suiting up to play Venom. So everything in the article seems to be on the money.

Special-effects worker Tim Phoenix, who worked on Doc Ock for "Spider-Man 2", has been hired to work on both Venom and Man-Wolf for the next sequel. "It's super cool stuff and I am in my element here for these particular creations," he tells the abovementioned site. "I am living in 'the dream' out here. It is just so surreal."

"Spider-Man 3" swings into theatres in 2007.

Thatis the article directly from the site........wow VENOM is in it and Thomas will be playign Eddie Brock..i can honestly sayi think he could be him......anyways there you go....im guessign Doc Ock youllprobably try to rip this info apart....so go ahead....

Idiot! That's pure Bullshit.

Topher sucks!

Sam Raimi you idiot! You just made the biggest mistake of your life!

👽 So anything on the actual sandman becoming sandman and how PP is going to defeat because I don't think he will be vacumed up by him.

Originally posted by BlackC@t
Idiot! That's pure Bullshit.

Topher sucks!

Sam Raimi you idiot! You just made the biggest mistake of your life!

not necessarily. depends who topher is playing.

Well it is NOT confirmed he is playing a villain.

After all Harry has been saying and doing I can only see him becoming a villain.

i must admit that when i saw the rumours about one of the villains being sandman i wasnt exactly wild about the idea anmd didnt really see what they could do for two hours with him, but on the other hand i think that whoever raimi chooses for the villains then he must have something special up his sleeve, and i will still watch the film even if the villain is a 2 inch tall worm that says boo

Maybe there will be 3 villains.Sandman,Hobgoblin(Harry) and maybe Venom.It's a possibility but he'd have to really bulk up.

No it's only two villains.

That much is DEFINITE.

Alright, let's break this down...I'm gonna get rid of the villains like Beetle that have no chance at all, but here is where I found the giant list of villains: http://www.samruby.com/villtoc.htm

Now, taking most of them out, these are all the villains that have any chance of being in any of the movies:

Carnage
Chameleon
Doctor Octopus
Doppleganger
Electro
Green Goblin I
Green Goblin II
Hobgoblin I
Hydro-Man
Kraven
Lizard
Manwolf
Morbius
Mysterio
Rhino
Sandman
Scorpion
Shocker
Shriek
Smythe, Alistaire
Spider-Slayers
Venom
Vulture

Now, some of these have been shown, and some of these require too much of a backstory with other characters, so we can eliminate some....

Chameleon
Electro
Green Goblin II
Hobgoblin I
Hydro-Man
Kraven
Lizard
Manwolf
Morbius
Mysterio
Rhino
Sandman
Scorpion
Shocker
Smythe, Alistaire
Spider-Slayers
Venom
Vulture

Logic here: Green Goblin has already been seen, and audiences don't like repetitive things, so GG2 and Hobgoblin are out. Hydro-Man couldn't hold up a movie by himself, and even if there were two villains, who really wants to see Hydro-Man? He's out. Man-Wolf is out too, nobody likes him and he's pointless. Jameson is a better character without Man-Wolf. Spider-Slayers are too X-Men like, having a machine fight Spider-Man...that's out. Morbius is not a substantial enough SPIDER-MAN villain. Same goes for Smythe.

[Chameleon, Electro, Kraven, Lizard, Mysterio, Rhino, Sandman, Scorpion, Shocker, Venom, Vulture]

Church and Grace could not play Rhino, he's out. Lizard would be played by Dylan Baker...so no new casting there. If Raimi went Vulture's route, it would be terrible, he's out. That leaves us with Chameleon, Electro, Kraven, Mysterio, Sandman, Scorpion, Shocker, and Venom....

Chameleon/Electro/Kraven/Mysterio/Sandman/Scorpion/Shocker/Venom

Nitty gritty here.

Chameleon - could be played by either of them successfully, but I could see Grace playing him more than Church.

Electro - I don't think either of them look enough like him to play him, although he could hold up a movie.

Kraven - I don't see the attraction with this guy, and neither of them look like him at all, so he's out.

Mysterio - definitely not Church, but Grace with glasses on has a definite shot. Mysterio can be used successfully to create controversy, as could Chameleon. Mysterio would require more eye-candy though, and it would be a better spectacle movie-wise, since we've seen shapeshifters all over the place in cinema already. Also, Mysterio could be upgraded to actually have some sort of offensive attacks, and perhaps he could put up a great fight against Spider-Man.

Sandman - Church has a shot to play him, Grace doesn't. Church somewhat resembles him...not exactly, he looks more like Hydro-Man (lol the irony) but he's got a great shot, also being the favorite of the lead actor and the director.

Scorpion - Grace could not play him, Church could POSSIBLY pull it off, but not as good as someone like Tom Sizemore would be casted for. I don't see this being very likely, but there's a slight possibility.

Shocker - I don't know what Shultz looks like, but I can see Church more in this role than Grace. This is a possibility, because Shocker requires virtually no backstory and he's a very straightforward, menacing, fight villain.

Venom - we all know that Venom has insane potential, is a great villain that affects both Spider-Man's use of powers and his personal life (better than any villain I'd argue). Venom, however, could not be played by Grace. Church, there is a slight chance, but I don't see it happening. Sadly, Venom is a slight chance that probably will not happen until 4 or later if they continue with the series.

That leaves us with this:

Mysterio, Shocker, and Sandman.

My theory is that Grace is Mysterio, and that Church is one of the S's. Now, I think that if Mysterio is given an upgrade in powers and can fight back, then Sandman is the villain. If he is not, however, Shocker has a good shot. Shocker and Sandman could both work very well on screen, but I think Shocker would be more believable and whatnot. Mysterio could definitely do a lot of damage, especially if he had offensive manuevers.

In conclusion, I can find out that Grace, if he plays any of the villains that logically should be on screen, he has no choice but to play Mysterio. If we see Absorbing Man or something, I doubt Raimi will receive much applause. Church is Shocker or Sandman, most likely Sandman due to its popularity from 2 big creative sources on the project.

My prediction:

Topher Grace - Mysterio / Thomas Haden Church - Sandman
The sand is in the fish bowl...Spider-Man 3

Originally posted by The Ones
2 villains? harry could be a good guy and realise what spider-man did was for the best. and now hes helping spidey. goblin wars can be an option

Finnaly someone agrees with me that Harry may become good, and realize that his dad was infact a mass murderer.....In the 2nd movie Harry found out Peter was Spidey..Peter is his best freind..I highly dought he would have the guts to go after him....and i dotn think Sam would do another Goblin...the first Goblin sucked it would be suicide if he did do another one....just a thought...

Yeah its really hard to picture Topher grace as a bad guy. I think he would of made a great spider-man if toby wants to stop at three films.

i definantly DO NOT see topher grace as mysterio, sorry buddy. and you said having the hobgoblin would be too repetitive?? so then what exactl do you suggest they do to tie off the whole, harry discovering his dad was the goblin and discovering the secret hiding spot of the costume and glider? i dunno, i could see topher as hobgoblin. maybe even chameleon. but, since its not certain hes a villain, he prolly wont be. but then who could he play???

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Eeeeek Sorry guys I'm afraid I've made a mountain out of a mole hill here.

According to Sony's official Spider-Man 3 site Topher Grace's character is completed unconfirmed.

It is not official he is playing a villain after all.The Hollywood reporter made that up 😠

Sorry guys my bad 😮

But I guess that gives hope that Harry may still be the Hobgoblin.

Paola you may close this thread.

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