Originally posted by MindsetWas that a well fed Galactus who fought IB?
I'll flip some pages from the prior issue, see if I find anything.
Originally posted by MindsetI alway thought Galactus operating at his high levels > IB
The IB, while he doesn't exactly increase in power,
can call upon whatever power that's opposite to his opponent's,
which in a way has the same affect as an increase, yet not exactly.
i was just about to post that whole fight
by strict definition, that wasn't a fight between cosmic entities so much as a boxing match.
Taken in that regard, Galactus was actually DEFEATING the In-Betweener.
How I arrived at the conclusion: Just count the number of attacks that G landed, vs. the number of attacks IB landed. It's quite petty, I know, but the entire conflict is a fist-fight. Therefore, you have to judge it as such, and G had the upper hand. It's mainly artistic depiction, but as such it's a boxing match-the boxer who lands the most hits wins the match, barring any KOs.
Originally posted by Tenebrousi was just about to post that whole fight
by strict definition, that wasn't a fight between cosmic entities so much as a boxing match.
Taken in that regard, Galactus was actually DEFEATING the In-Betweener.
How I arrived at the conclusion: Just count the number of attacks that G landed, vs. the number of attacks IB landed. It's quite petty, I know, but the entire conflict is a fist-fight. Therefore, you have to judge it as such, and G had the upper hand. It's mainly artistic depiction, but as such it's a boxing match-the boxer who lands the most hits wins the match, barring any KOs.
They blasted each other a few times,
and there was an MMA element to it, (a few throws and such, punches)
but G didn't have the upper hand, nor vice versa.
In fact, the IB was the one that got the edge when they drifted towards the BH.
I guess if we have to score the fight based on hits, (7 to 5)
then meh, I guess, but that's a bit of a reach imo.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
But, Galactus was SEVERLY weakned.
Originally posted by Mr Master
When he reached the Black Hole?I don't think so, the IB is simply more powerful in that specific spot.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
No, before the fight. He haven't fed to restore himself.
Galactus was incredibly weak in the immediate preceding issue (SS vol 3. #17)
G is so weak, IB actually tries to Kill Big G with a blast
The IB's powers have zero lasting effect on Galactus, since Galactus is singularly unique in the universe, as such, IB's powers cannot effect him as Galactus has no opposite in the cosmic hierarchy-"no force to counterbalance his"
Now since the elders are forbidden to enter death's realm, they have lived in galactus since he ingested them, back in issue #10. However, all that time they were in galactus' "stomach", they haven't been just chillin, they've been attacking galactus from within, and G is helpless to stop their attacks, so that is why he is extremely weak
the elders are eventually cast out, and galactus yaks them out from his mouth
So yeah, G was incredibly weak before fighting the IB.
Originally posted by Mr Master
T, I love your G knowledge,
but I can't agree that G was winning, or losing for that matter,
they were clearly stalemating imo according to the scans.They blasted each other a few times,
and there was an MMA element to it, (a few throws and such, punches)
but G didn't have the upper hand, nor vice versa.In fact, the IB was the one that got the edge when they drifted towards the BH.
I guess if we have to score the fight based on hits, (7 to 5)
then meh, I guess, but that's a bit of a reach imo.
yeah the blackhole turned the tide to IB's favor, as it was the nexus point or whatever it's supposed to be, between the "magik" realm and the "science" realm of eternity and death, etc. That i won't argue
but still, per my post above, the most IB managed to do was stalemate G, even after G was incredibly weak from being attacked from within. I suppose it's not unlike a severe case of food poisoning, then immediately enter into a boxing match after the perpetrating agents have been expelled.
Originally posted by TenebrousGalactus was incredibly weak in the immediate preceding issue (SS vol 3. #17)
G is so weak, IB actually tries to Kill Big G with a blast
Originally posted by TenebrousSo yeah, G was incredibly weak before fighting the IB.
Actually, G was restored by Order and Chaos:
"When one rides with the Gods, all things are possible,
the saving of ourselves, and the restoration of Galactus"
Order and Chaos extracted the Elders,
and restored Galactus,
now he's ready:
And yes, pissed!
Originally posted by Tenebrousyeah the blackhole turned the tide to IB's favor, as it was the nexus point or whatever it's supposed to be, between the "magik" realm and the "science" realm of eternity and death, etc. That i won't argue
but still, per my post above, the most IB managed to do was stalemate G
Originally posted by Tenebrouseven after G was incredibly weak from being attacked from within. I suppose it's not unlike a severe case of food poisoning, then immediately enter into a boxing match after the perpetrating agents have been expelled.
He was obviously restored to at-least normal levels by Order and Chaos.
Originally posted by Mr Master
That's before Chaos and Order restored him though.Not exactly:
Actually, G was restored by Order and Chaos:
"When one rides with the Gods, all things are possible,
of Galactus"
the saving of ourselves, [b]and the restorationOrder and Chaos extracted the Elders,
and restored Galactus,
now he's ready:And yes, pissed! [/B]
hmm I dunno about that, as then it's kind of an interpretation of "restore"
Restore: restore Galactus to his natural self
Restore: restore Galactus to "normality" by removing the elders
I can see it goes both ways, but my personal interpretation is they cast the elders out of G, "restoring" him to his previous situation (no elders in his stomach).
Again it can go in either interpretation (yours vs. mine), but I'm a bit uncomfortable thinking that chaos and order can restore galactus to normal power levels, when eternity never gave a damn when galactus was near death, and certainly took his sweet time when G actually died and abraxas was running wild.
Originally posted by Mr Master
👆G has gotten one shotted by Rachel while extremely weak,
and gets defeated by heroes when in the same condition,
no way he's stalemating the In-Betweener at that stage of power, no ... way.He was obviously restored to at-least normal levels by Order and Chaos.
true, but in those instances G had no vested interest, or felt personally threatened or been on the receiving end of rash effrontery.
Galactus wanted to PUNISH IB.
Originally posted by Tenebrousas then it's kind of an interpretation of "restore"
Restore: restore Galactus to his natural self
Restore: restore Galactus to "normality" by removing the elders
I can see it goes both ways, but my personal interpretation is they cast the elders out of G, "restoring" him to his previous situation (no elders in his stomach).
Again it can go in either interpretation (yours vs. mine)
Originally posted by Tenebrousbut I'm a bit uncomfortable thinking that chaos and order can restore galactus to normal power levels, when eternity never gave a damn when galactus was near death, and certainly took his sweet time when G actually died and abraxas was running wild.
I mean, IB isn't some push over,
he freaking treated Mistress Death like a joke,
after using her to do his will:
