Originally posted by andres31
I don't believe in casualties. Sidiuos beats the most powerful Jedis by himself, and Yoda runs for his life. How is possible that Yoda were more powerful if it can't defeat Sidious and runs for his life? Sidious kill all the jedis that were with Windu, including master Fisto who is one of the most powerful jedis and one of the best fighters. Sidious is the most powerful and the most impressive by far.
Simple, Yoda was more then just equal to sidious but he didn't have a lightsaber and the clones were coming in, he can't go back in and face sidious 1 v 1.
Originally posted by hustler1ne
look, i know that sidious shot mace out of a window, but mace beat him in the fight. the only reason why he he got killed was cause of anakin cutting off his hand. at that time mace didnt know the anakin had turned to the dark side, so he wasnt expecting anakin to attack him either. so i think that mace iwndu is stronger than sidious
sidious was counting on anakin becuz he wanted him to turn.
he was playing possum and culd have killed mace at any time.
Luke is the most powerful Jedi!
Sidious tells Yoda that Anakin will become the strongest in the darkside, therefore become more powerful (episode 3). Anakin then can actually overthrown the emperor. If Anakin was too be fully consumed by the darkside then he can do so. But he doesn;t cause there is still good in him. If Anakin were to stay with the good side of the force then he would become more powerful cause the darkside isn;t stronger. So his son Luke takes his place. If Vader destroyed the emperor because he was lucky and fluked out, then the emperor would be the most powerful, or else Vader would be. Luke has the ability to progress in the force after he confronted vader to finish his training to become a jedi. He just started as a Jedi. Also, Yoda tell hims before he dies that "The force is strong in your family, that is all what you have learned" . To be a jedi is to be strong through life and the force, he combines this perfectly. He converts vader to the good side and so forth. The final outcome Luke defeated 'Vader and his emperor' Hence, the most powerful
Luke in about 30 years after EP6, then it would be. comeon, you know that vader is a powerful Jedi, Dooku looks pretty old. Vader got worked by Luke. I bet you Luke would kick some as* back in time. The force is strong with him and he learns to control it. Dont be fooled by the effects of lightsabers in the prequels compared to the old trilopgy. I'm wondering what Lukes Mediclorian count would be?
Originally posted by jackstain
sidious was counting on anakin becuz he wanted him to turn.he was playing possum and culd have killed mace at any time.
There's about 5 threads on this, I encourage you to look them up. There's a pretty big debate going on, with valid points for each side. Personally, I have a lot of reasons to believe that Mace legitimately defeated Sidious, and I'm by no means the only person who thinks so.