Just remember this.... in the original aramaic, Mary wasn't a virgin.... just a "young woman..." it was long accepted that james and John were the actual, blood related "brothers" of jesus, and that he had several sisters as well.... it was only with the acceptance of the idea of a virgin birth (itself stolen from paganism) that the brothers and sisters of jesus became awkward to explain..... it is also almost certain that jesus was married, and had children of his own.... in first century Judaism it was the norm that Rabbis were married with kids, because otherwise they would not be helping to honour gods promise to Abraham.... one of the few objections never put forward in the Gospels is "How can he claim to be a teacher of God's Law... he isn't even married..." The jews would certainly have aimed this at him... if he was married, the jews would not have mentioned it, as to them it would be a given.... and the Catholic Church, with its bizarre celibacy rules would not have pointed this out, preferring to let the omission give the impression that jesus was a bachelor....
Originally posted by big gay kirk
Just remember this.... in the original aramaic, Mary wasn't a virgin.... just a "young woman..." it was long accepted that james and John were the actual, blood related "brothers" of jesus, and that he had several sisters as well.... it was only with the acceptance of the idea of a virgin birth (itself stolen from paganism) that the brothers and sisters of jesus became awkward to explain..... it is also almost certain that jesus was married, and had children of his own.... in first century Judaism it was the norm that Rabbis were married with kids, because otherwise they would not be helping to honour gods promise to Abraham.... one of the few objections never put forward in the Gospels is "How can he claim to be a teacher of God's Law... he isn't even married..." The jews would certainly have aimed this at him... if he was married, the jews would not have mentioned it, as to them it would be a given.... and the Catholic Church, with its bizarre celibacy rules would not have pointed this out, preferring to let the omission give the impression that jesus was a bachelor....
It is amazing how non believers think they know more about Jesus than Christians do or than the Bible tells us. 🙄
It is amazing how non believers think they know more about Jesus than Christians do or than the Bible tells ushas it ever dawned on you that many non believers once believed, and being a christian doesnt automatically mean you know more about jesus than a non believer, maybe it is because a non believers know more than christians on that matter that makes them non believers
Originally posted by finti
has it ever dawned on you that many non believers once believed, and being a christian doesnt automatically mean you know more about jesus than a non believer, maybe it is because a non believers know more than christians on that matter that makes them non believers
"In some awful, strange, paradoxical way, atheists tend to take religion more seriously than the practitioners," Jonathon Miller.