some christians are too sensitive, when they go out against a diffrent set of believes they can, in their own mind, rightfully do so. If someone reply with something that goes against christianity some tend to scream "bloody murder" and "why is always the christians the victim of these flamings". Maybe they should try to see their own role in this , maybe they just brought it on all by themselves
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I see. To reclaim one you must shame the other.
Not normally, but on this board and with particular members it often seems like the only way to make your point.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I said ''even vague'' knowledge, for one.Two it is you who went on to tell me how much releasrtch you've done and how much YOU know about Christians, and thus that excuses your discrimination and prejudice you so openly display.
If my opinions so offend you then you have the options of not reading them, but please don't accuse someone of being discriminatory or prejudice when you are purely basing that assessment on what little you know about that person. I have never said I am prejudice against Christians, I have said I am prejudice against those who "act" like Christians, but through their actions prove that they are not.
I would also expect a moderator of these forums not to derail a thread as doggedly as you have seemed to do here, if you have a problem with me personally, then PM me, I won't promise that I'll read it or respond, but that would be the proper forum to dispute your perceptions of me, not here.
As for the thread Wind Dancer pointed out, The title was to get attention (which it did) and the first line of the thread read:
"I think it's funny that people who call themselves Christians"
NOT CHRISTIANS, but PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS".
Once again wind dancer I would expect more out of a moderator than by simply posting something in hopes of getting a kneejerk reaction. Did you even read what I wrote there?
Originally posted by KharmaDog
As for the thread Wind Dancer pointed out, The title was to get attention (which it did) and the first line of the thread read:"I think it's funny that people who call themselves Christians"
NOT CHRISTIANS, but PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS".
Once again wind dancer I would expect more out of a moderator than by simply posting something in hopes of getting a kneejerk reaction. Did you even read what I wrote there?
Hey, nothing personal I was just providing a link. And yes you had some interesting points in that thread..that is all.
Originally posted by WindDancer
Hey, nothing personal I was just providing a link. And yes you had some interesting points in that thread..that is all.
Sorry to jump the gun on you, it just appeared as though you were trying to provide evidence to support Lil' b' s character assement of me.
Like I have said before, I say plenty of things that people may disagree with and lead them to not like me, such is life. But there is nor reason for other's to fabricate reasons for people to dislike me.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
Sorry to jump the gun on you, it just appeared as though you were trying to provide evidence to support Lil' b' s character assement of me.Like I have said before, I say plenty of things that people may disagree with and lead them to not like me, such is life. But there is nor reason for other's to fabricate reasons for people to dislike me.
Man, you are going up against two of the most respected mods, I would kinda quit.... you are never going to win...
Originally posted by §P0oONY
Man, you are going up against two of the most respected mods, I would kinda quit.... you are never going to win...
I am not "going up against" anyone, I am defending myself and my opinions. It's also not about winning or losing.
Also, the popularity of a mod or member should have no correlation to the acceptance of their opinion or position on an issue as being more just or unjust as that od a lesser known or liked member.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
I am not "going up against" anyone, I am defending myself and my opinions. It's also not about winning or losing.Also, the popularity of a mod or member should have no correlation to the acceptance of their opinion or position on an issue as being more just or unjust as that od a lesser known or liked member.
Fair enough,
But as we all know the popularity of a member/mod does effect outcomes of discussions/arguments.
But as we all know the popularity of a member/mod does effect outcomes of discussions/argumentsyou side with people cause you agree with what they say, not because of their popularity. Only the spinless use that tactic.
Originally posted by finti
you side with people cause you agree with what they say, not because of their popularity. Only the spinless use that tactic.
The outcome of an argument should be affected by the arguments used, and not by the mob rules
I agree there 100% but there are always people that would just back someone because of their popularity or because of the majority go along with it
Originally posted by KharmaDog
Not normally, but on this board and with particular members it often seems like the only way to make your point.If my opinions so offend you then you have the options of not reading them, but please don't accuse someone of being discriminatory or prejudice when you are purely basing that assessment on what little you know about that person. I have never said I am prejudice against Christians, I have said I am prejudice against those who "act" like Christians, but through their actions prove that they are not.
I would also expect a moderator of these forums not to derail a thread as doggedly as you have seemed to do here, if you have a problem with me personally, then PM me, I won't promise that I'll read it or respond, but that would be the proper forum to dispute your perceptions of me, not here.
If I had a problem with you personaly you would know about it. I have problem with your ideas. Does not agreeing with you and challanging you mean people have problems?
I read your posts in many different threads and they are all indirect attacks on Christians, or few sly comments.
Im frankly sick of that kind of discrimination, because its everywhere and people hide behind the ''its not how its meant''
I dont put words in your mouth, I simply take them in the spirit they were meant - and in the spirit your replys are meant is not all too flattering!
My best friend is a Jew. In the name, not in practice - it doesnt even matter. We sat in the resturant about to order and she ordered something that had pork in it and made a joke about how she doesnt even know how to behaive as a Jew. A person on the next table decided to join in the coversation uninvited and share his opinion on how ''Jews behaive''. Much like you, his words were not openly insulting, but were very clear and what they were supposed to be saying.
His ''extensive research'' much like yours about Christians also lead him to believe that the way Jews ''are'' was not very nice.
My closest group of friends are Christians and some are strong believers, and i simply refuse to believe that people like you would group them in a 'fundy' Bushist category based soley on the fact that they are certain religion. Christianity for them is a religion, not a political statement.
This kind of shit enrages me because people are too up their own asses to understand people for who they are, as opposed to some pre-conception they might have about that group of people. Im sick of it!
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
If I had a problem with you personaly you would know about it. I have problem with your ideas. Does not agreeing with you and challanging you mean people have problems?
No, challenging and attacking someone or their ideas based on your assumption or misguided gathering of information means you have problems. Show me clearly where I have been unjustly judgemental or discriminatory to christians (don't include jokes or witty/witless remarks for we have all made them in jest). And don't just pull one example, you have clearly seen an absolutely obvious pattern. One or two example is not enough to prove your point. I have made (up to this point ) over 1800 posts, and basing your opinion of me on 1 or 2 is not gonna cut it.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I read your posts in many different threads and they are all indirect attacks on Christians, or few sly comments.Im frankly sick of that kind of discrimination, because its everywhere and people hide behind the ''its not how its meant''
Sly comments aside I generally don't make indirect attacks. If I attack it's generally out there in the open.
All my post are indirect attacks? Isn't that a wee bit of an exageration or generalization? And once again, read the entire post and see the meaning as opposed to looking for any "indirect meanings".
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I dont put words in your mouth, I simply take them in the spirit they were meant - and in the spirit your replys are meant is not all too flattering!
Thank you for being so all powerful as to have the ability to read beyond what I post in this forum and look into my very thought process. For future reference, if you are interested in exactly what I mean, ask me and I'll tell you what I mean rather than tell me what you thought I meant.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
His ''extensive research'' much like yours about Christians also lead him to believe that the way Jews ''are'' was not very nice.
My closest group of friends are Christians and some are strong believers, and i simply refuse to believe that people like you would group them in a 'fundy' Bushist category based soley on the fact that they are certain religion. Christianity for them is a religion, not a political statement.
Do you know of this man's "extensive research"? And how can you compare it to what you believe is my "extensive research". What's even funnier is that you then talk about your friends and personal experiences. It must be wonderful to live in a world where your opions and experiences are so much more valid than that of others.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
This kind of shit enrages me because people are too up their own asses to understand people for who they are, as opposed to some pre-conception they might have about that group of people. Im sick of it!
Before you accuse me of being so "up my own ass" perhaps you should read the posts I've made about people who act like christians or call themselves christians but definitely do not follow the basic concepts and values of that belief and how because of this "THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANS".