Gladiator vs. Thor

Started by KK the Great5 pages
Originally posted by lft4ded
The interesting thing about this fight IIRC is that Thor's speed was augmented to the point that Gladiator had to move at super-speed to keep up (I think he said something about barely being able to make the out at the edge of his vision, and we know how fast Gladiator is), and as you noted, that fight was virtually even until Sharon broke it up. Now in a regular fight where Thor's speed isn't augmented...

Sort of.

It wasn't exactly that Thor's speed was augmented, though. The Shi'ar galaxy was under a time dilation effect, so time was moving extremely slowly. Reed made devices that put Thor and the FF outside the influence, so they were unaffected by the time dilation effect.

They spent two weeks on the Shi'ar planet working while the whole world appeared to be frozen. Even ships in the sky seemed to be stuck in place. In reality, they were just moving very, very slowly because time was slowed to such a degree.

Eventually, Gladiator returned from a mission at the edge of the empire, and as he approached the planet he noticed figures moving seemingly at superspeed, at the edge of his vision. To him, the time dilation effect wasn't noticeable because he was affected by it just as the rest of the world. He then used his hyperspeed to match Thor and the FF's proportionate rate of speed relative to the dilated flow of time.

So, basically, Gladiator spent the entire issue operating at his interstellar hyperspeed like it was a walk in the park. He fought Thor, helped the FF stockpile weapons, and eventually carried a giant starship full of weapons and threw it at Galactus--all a fraction of a second.

Were he to use his fully combat-capable hyperspeed in a fight when Thor isn't operating under a different flow of time, there's no way Thor would ever know he was in a fight. Gladiator could punch him, read the New York Times, kick him, take his spaceship to Mike's Carwash, punch him again, bang Jessica Biel, and then come back to finish the job, and neither Thor nor Biel would know what hit 'em.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Its even simpler than that:
*Gladiator* " Thors to strong, I cant beat him. I failed"
Beaten, broken and NO CONFIDENCE 😎
Thor has already won and will win. Espically considering Glads now thinks Thor is to strong for him.*wink,wink*

Gladiator doesn't "now" think anything. That fight involved a time-traveling Gladiator from far enough into the future for Thor to notice visible signs of aging. The current day Gladiator will have no memory of the fight.

That also isn't how his confidence factor works. He doesn't and has never once lost his power due to a confidence dip when fighting an opponent he acknowledges as a peer or superior. The only time it happens is when he's fighting someone who he knows for a fact he is far superior to, and then the opponent somehow stands up to everything he can throw at them. Like when he thought he was punching Reed but really it was Captain America's shield made invisible and replaced with an image of Reed. His confidence dipped because he launched an all-out assault on what he thought was Reed and Reed just stood there with his hands on his hips, smiling.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Yea, it kinda is. Thor has fought for months on end befor. Several big guns have fought for long periods of time without being winded. Herc is one for example. Thor had fought once already as well. If Thor girl winded Glads that much hes not the man hes made out to be. If she winded him that bad then hes not in Thors class anyway.

"Thor Girl" is such a misleading title. The Designate was, in reality, quite a bit above Thor in power. When she attacked Gladiator, Thor said that the blast "rivaled omnipotent Odin."

This fight may come down to this.
Can Thor's righteousness overpower Gladiator's confidence

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Its even simpler than that:
*Gladiator* " Thors to strong, I cant beat him. I failed"
Beaten, broken and NO CONFIDENCE 😎
Thor has already won and will win. Espically considering Glads now thinks Thor is to strong for him.*wink,wink*
Did masterson thor have thors strength and power...YES.... was it stated in that book that gladiator was stronger than thor...YES.... Was gladiators strength described as near limitless....YES.... THE END.

Originally posted by james2099
Did masterson thor have thors strength and power...YES.... was it stated in that book that gladiator was stronger than thor...YES.... Was gladiators strength described as near limitless....YES.... THE END.
...

Anyway...

Here's some scans to show Glads moving in hyperspeed in those comics...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/FantasticFourV1339-14.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/FantasticFourV1339-20.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/FantasticFourV1339-26.jpg

Thor still wins though. 🙂

I read a Thor comic where Gladiator pretty much took the win while he was fighting an armada. I think Gladiator may be stronger than Thor but Thor with his godblast should be able to defeat people like Gladiator.
I'm pretty sure Thor is ranked number one in marvel although i had thought for a long time Gladiator was strongest.

Thor wins.

odinson wins