Muhammad Ali or Bruce Lee?

Originally posted by Blue Dragon
He's right you know... 😬 Bruce Lee is the geatest martial artist of all time, get that fact into your head people!

Well, I disagree that he is the greatest martial artist of all time. However, that is not what is in dispute right now. Being a great marshal artist, does not by definition make you capable of beating a world champion boxer with the size, speed and power of Ali.

Originally posted by Blue Dragon

Umm...too much information, I have a limit when it comes to reading & it ain't long mate... 🙄 Besides you just posted this, why didn't you just tell me to look up? 😕 😕

If you are not willing to read an argument contrary to yours, that by and large puts forth a better argument than you could, on the basis that it is too long and you lack the attention span, then don't bother arguing. By that statement you give the perception that you are either too lazy to read, or that you have been bested in a dispute and have no defense other than the, "I'm not listening, I'm not listening" defense so popular in the early grade school years.

@F1 - I read the article that you posted, and it did nothing to further your point. Fa-jing is like someone's "chi" an energy perceived by others, but by no means a measurable physical characteristic. We are talking about physical capability, not mystical mumbo jumbo.

Me neither, its just an excercise, nothing more. While the West believed in developing themselves externally the East believed in both, but, more internally.

Your going off in tangent.

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Originally posted by @F1
A street fighter or a style such as Muy Tai or Tai Chi, would beat you, or any style that doesn't invovle logical thinking. TKD and Karate are to set in there ways, everything is planned before hand, set movements, block, punch and kick etc. The styles I have mentioned are to do with reflex, they are natural way of fighting, you will have no idea what they are going to do, until it is too late. If you have to think about your moves, no matter how fast you are, you will lose.

And how do you know this?.....No a street fighter couldn't beat me...Well maybe a strong guy could but versus someone like my brother..uum no... street fighters especially ones who have hardly any experiences in fighting would be beaten badly by some one who does TKD..(If the TKD martial artist knows how to apply their techniques) Tai Chi isn't much of a Fighting martial art...it's more for the mind, spirtuality, and healing of the body.. and against Muay Thai...Yes Muay Thai martial artist would Kick just about any TKD or Karate martial artist....TKD and Karate are to set in there ways, everything is planned before hand, set movements, block, punch and kick etc.
This really shows how little you know about the Martial Arts....Anyone one can fight but most people don't really use their legs in fights...and TKD allows you to become more comfortable with your legs and to attack and defend with them...I mean look at Chuck Norris...Karate Champion......So yea, I mean i'm sure weight size and height have some factors in a fight but if you're fighting an average 5'9" guy it's goin to be a pretty fair fight....and for you to say something as what i quoted you on, do you have any martial arts experience or fighting experience...If not then how would you know that any street fighter could be me?.... 🙄 😛 😛

Tank Abbott was nothing but a street/pit fighter and he crushed his competition who were versed in many different forms of marshal arts.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Tank Abbott was nothing but a street/pit fighter and he crushed his competition who were versed in many different forms of marshal arts.

Indeed he did, I'll bet a defensive tackle in american football or a prop forward if he "tackles" a martial artist will do them all manner of damage 😄

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Tank Abbott was nothing but a street/pit fighter and he crushed his competition who were versed in many different forms of marshal arts.

Last one to beat him was Cabbage,he has some skills but is mainly a brawler, he also does well 😄

Originally posted by AdventChild
And how do you know this?.....No a street fighter couldn't beat me...Well maybe a strong guy could but versus someone like my brother..uum no... street fighters especially ones who have hardly any experiences in fighting would be beaten badly by some one who does TKD..(If the TKD martial artist knows how to apply their techniques) Tai Chi isn't much of a Fighting martial art...it's more for the mind, spirtuality, and healing of the body.. and against Muay Thai...Yes Muay Thai martial artist would Kick just about any TKD or Karate martial artist....TKD and Karate are to set in there ways, everything is planned before hand, set movements, block, punch and kick etc.
This really shows how little you know about the Martial Arts....Anyone one can fight but most people don't really use their legs in fights...and TKD allows you to become more comfortable with your legs and to attack and defend with them...I mean look at Chuck Norris...Karate Champion......So yea, I mean i'm sure weight size and height have some factors in a fight but if you're fighting an average 5'9" guy it's goin to be a pretty fair fight....and for you to say something as what i quoted you on, do you have any martial arts experience or fighting experience...If not then how would you know that any street fighter could be me?.... 🙄 😛 😛

You need to pull your head out of your ass!
A real street fighter would probably kick anyones ass on this forum.
You know why?
In a "real" street fight their are no rules.In a street fight guns,knives and anything else is allowed.Sure you might rough a guy up,but that won't help when your shot or stabbed or gang beaten.Most street fighters (not bar brawlers) are ruthless murders.Don't let anyone else tell you different.

tank could take out the lower class fighters,but not anyone who was realy good.

Originally posted by mr.smiley
You need to pull your head out of your ass!
A real street fighter would probably kick anyones ass on this forum.
You know why?
In a "real" street fight their are no rules.In a street fight guns,knives and anything else is allowed.Sure you might rough a guy up,but that won't help when your shot or stabbed or gang beaten.Most street fighters (not bar brawlers) are ruthless murders.Don't let anyone else tell you different.

i'm a girl.....hehe i know that....I'm glad ur tellin me this though...i am well aware of that...my grandfather used to be a boxer and when he used to go to the bar and get drunk he would start fights....he was scary...any way he's been shot stabbed and all that.....i've heard so many stories...but yea I'm for Ali now...Only cause i know what a boxer is capable of now..... 😄 😄 😛

I saw that coming.Common reply in most forums 😄

?huh?

A real street fighter would probably kick anyones ass on this forum You know why? In a "real" street fight their are no rules.In a street fight guns,knives and anything else is allowed.Sure you might rough a guy up,but that won't help when your shot or stabbed or gang beaten.Most street fighters (not bar brawlers) are ruthless murders.Don't let anyone else tell you different.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
If you are not willing to read an argument contrary to yours, that by and large puts forth a better argument than you could, on the basis that it is too long and you lack the attention span, then don't bother arguing. By that statement you give the perception that you are either too lazy to read, or that you have been bested in a dispute and have no defense other than the, "I'm not listening, I'm not listening" defense so popular in the early grade school years.

@F1 - I read the article that you posted, and it did nothing to further your point. Fa-jing is like someone's "chi" an energy perceived by others, but by no means a measurable physical characteristic. We are talking about physical capability, not mystical mumbo jumbo.

Lenny Mclean AKA The Guvnor, would beat any Martial Artist, or just about anybody, he was one hard B*****D. Street Fighters don't think logically, they will do anything to win, and you say they have know experience, they thought in the back streets, the school of hard knocks. I hope you never encounter one, your Ego will be severely dinted. And on Tai Chi as fighting system. Its probably the most devastating one around and the oldest. The reason you don't see Tai Chi Masters fighting in no-holds barred competitions, is because they dont have Ego's. They do not need to prove themselves like these muscle heads.

Originally posted by finti
and who said that anyone on this forum would follow the rules, and the fact that you really dont know anything about what combat training people here have your statement dont hold ground

I don't kno everyone combats training,but I do know hers is Tkd and I haven't ever seen a effective Tkd practioner in a nhb type fight.

as long as you dont know everyones combat skill on this forum you should refrain making comments about what would happen in a battle cause you wouldnt know

Part of this forum is just to theorize what would happen between Lee and Ali.The bottom line is noone here will have too much severe training.

The bottom line is noone here will have too much severe training.

Part of this forum is just to theorize what would happen between Lee and Ali.