Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Yeah!...and they're not even getting a reach around for fuks sake.Seriously...though...
how about this Jeff Gannon? EHHHHH? a gay escort...given press credientials and showing up at white house functions that were not open to th egeneral press? hummmmm? I smell a *** story!
Originally posted by PVS
what amazes me is how brainwashed certain people are.
as if democrats represent all that is polluted, perverted, filthy, and unholy, while republican presidents piss rainbows and crap sunshine,
just because of their political ideal.
Well, conversly, Democrats often feel the same way regarding their candidates.
not really.
i find that many on the left have a realistic view of politics and
though they might support a particular candidate, they wouldnt worship and trust him unconditionally. during clinton's term, i never heard the line "i support clinton in whatever he does". have you?
to blindly trust a politician and loyally salute him as he drives you and everyone else off a cliff is the mentallity i see today. i never saw such blind love for any democratic candidate on such a wide scale.
not to generalise, but from conversations i had before the last election, i didnt hear many people regard kerry as such a great wonderful man...have you? it was more like..."well...bush is the antichrist and kerry is just another billionare a$$hole...i'll vote kerry"
Originally posted by PVS
not really.i find that many on the left have a realistic view of politics and
though they might support a particular candidate, they wouldnt worship and trust him unconditionally. during clinton's term, i never heard the line "i support clinton in whatever he does". have you?to blindly trust a politician and loyally salute him as he drives you and everyone else off a cliff is the mentallity i see today. i never saw such blind love for any democratic candidate on such a wide scale.
not to generalise, but from conversations i had before the last election, i didnt hear many people regard kerry as such a great wonderful man...have you? it was more like..."well...bush is the antichrist and kerry is just another billionare a$$hole...i'll vote kerry"
Well, yeah really.
I mean, in reality it illustrates a flaw in the game plan that democrats have been using. I agree there is much more blind faith mentality on teh right, but if the democrats can't find someone who inspires devotion....then they shouldn't run that person for president. And Kerry was a joke...I realize that, but democrats did the same thing with Clinton...they still do to some extent.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Which comment? The reach around, or the Jeff Gannon part?
Originally posted by PVS
not really.i find that many on the left have a realistic view of politics and
though they might support a particular candidate, they wouldnt worship and trust him unconditionally. during clinton's term, i never heard the line "i support clinton in whatever he does". have you?to blindly trust a politician and loyally salute him as he drives you and everyone else off a cliff is the mentallity i see today. i never saw such blind love for any democratic candidate on such a wide scale.
not to generalise, but from conversations i had before the last election, i didnt hear many people regard kerry as such a great wonderful man...have you? it was more like..."well...bush is the antichrist and kerry is just another billionare a$$hole...i'll vote kerry"
Originally posted by FeceMan
Reach around."bush is antichrist" Sounds like the Republicans you described, minus the pissing rainbows. I'm going to have to agree with Capt here.
you ignore the whole point just to pick one part out and run with it? ok fine.
let me rephrase my thought process so that it's more palatable for you:
both candidate were typical fakeass politicians. i found kerry to be the less....dangerous option. however, i never believed that kerry was a great man. i see them for exactly what they are, and then go on to weigh the pros and cons of each. (still trying to find a single pro for bush to no avail). i think many on the left and those who straddle the fence have the same basic outlook. that outlook is "who is the lesser scumbag". not a positive one, but a realistic one.
there will always be politicians that i (we) feel very strongly against (thus my 'antichrist' comment). but you know what? no state has ever been hijacked by a leader who is hated by the people. however, when unconditional trust is given, and when you hear the words "i support our leader in whatever he does" bleated by the masses, then get ready to kiss your civil liberties goodbye and listen for the sounds of goosestepping outside your window.
our way of democracy was built on a system of checks and balances. it was structured with a tremendous feeling of mistrust for power. our founding fathers put laws into place with one timeless message "don't EVER trust us"
Originally posted by PVS
you ignore the whole point just to pick one part out and run with it? ok fine.
let me rephrase my thought process so that it's more palatable for you:both candidate were typical fakeass politicians. i found kerry to be the less....dangerous option. however, i never believed that kerry was a great man. i see them for exactly what they are, and then go on to weigh the pros and cons of each. (still trying to find a single pro for bush to no avail). i think many on the left and those who straddle the fence have the same basic outlook. that outlook is "who is the lesser scumbag". not a positive one, but a realistic one.
there will always be politicians that i (we) feel very strongly against (thus my 'antichrist' comment). but you know what? no state has ever been hijacked by a leader who is hated by the people. however, when unconditional trust is given, and when you hear the words "i support our leader in whatever he does" bleated by the masses, then get ready to kiss your civil liberties goodbye and listen for the sounds of goosestepping outside your window.
our way of democracy was built on a system of checks and balances. it was structured with a tremendous feeling of mistrust for power. our founding fathers put laws into place with one timeless message "don't EVER trust us"
BAM.
thats what i have been trying to say for god knows how long... its good to know someone knows what im talking about!!!
Originally posted by PVS
you ignore the whole point just to pick one part out and run with it? ok fine.
let me rephrase my thought process so that it's more palatable for you:both candidate were typical fakeass politicians. i found kerry to be the less....dangerous option. however, i never believed that kerry was a great man. i see them for exactly what they are, and then go on to weigh the pros and cons of each. (still trying to find a single pro for bush to no avail). i think many on the left and those who straddle the fence have the same basic outlook. that outlook is "who is the lesser scumbag". not a positive one, but a realistic one.
there will always be politicians that i (we) feel very strongly against (thus my 'antichrist' comment). but you know what? no state has ever been hijacked by a leader who is hated by the people. however, when unconditional trust is given, and when you hear the words "i support our leader in whatever he does" bleated by the masses, then get ready to kiss your civil liberties goodbye and listen for the sounds of goosestepping outside your window.
our way of democracy was built on a system of checks and balances. it was structured with a tremendous feeling of mistrust for power. our founding fathers put laws into place with one timeless message "don't EVER trust us"
Don't misunderstand what I was saying P, I agree with you 100%...but there are brainwashed supporters on both sides of the aisle.