Originally posted by JesusIsAliveI have always said I used to be a Christian, a very strong one that would die for my faith.......that is not a secret. But my nature is curious, always has been, so I did my studies to see what would please god the most. What I found is god doesn't need pleasing, otherwise it wouldn't be a god.......It would be lacking of something if "IT NEEDED SOMETHING"......What I would call god is way beyond us all........It is something that we cannot comprehend at all....not at all.........and religion is a tool that try to understand and comprehend it but fails miserably at it.............IT JUST IS...........doesn't matter what you think......or your belief IT DOESN'T CARE.........it just is.........and is part of us and gives what we dwell on............It's part of evolution, which is our thoughts.......always creating........I've found this to be true in my life for sure.
So then why do you deny Jesus now? I have proof of your denial.
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Originally posted by sonnetI do not understand why death is viewed as either a thing to be feared when it is yourself dying, or saddened when it is another dying. Regardless of the beliefs that one has, death is one of two things, release from everything existent in life, or an enlightening experience as to the nature of the afterlife, perhaps both. Either way, the advent of death should be welcomed, imo.
If you were facing death at this very moment, would it scare you.? Will you be at peace because you know where you are going?Many people because of their religion say they are sure about what happens when you die and afterwards. I think that even if you believe you do know it must be scary knowing that you are about to leave all that is familiar to you.
If I have restated anyone else's posts I am sorry, didn't feel like reading through them.
Originally posted by debbiejo
I have always said I used to be a Christian, a very strong one that would die for my faith.......that is not a secret. But my nature is curious, always has been, so I did my studies to see what would please god the most. What I found is god doesn't need pleasing, otherwise it wouldn't be a god.......It would be lacking of something if "IT NEEDED SOMETHING"......What I would call god is way beyond us all........It is something that we cannot comprehend at all....not at all.........and religion is a tool that try to understand and comprehend it but fails miserably at it.............IT JUST IS...........doesn't matter what you think......or your belief IT DOESN'T CARE.........it just is.........and is part of us and gives what we dwell on............It's part of evolution, which is our thoughts.......always creating........I've found this to be true in my life for sure.
Curious: why do you put so many ellipseses (is that a word?) between your thoughts?
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Originally posted by Regret
I do not understand why death is viewed as either a thing to be feared when it is yourself dying, or saddened when it is another dying. Regardless of the beliefs that one has, death is one of two things, release from everything existent in life, or an enlightening experience as to the nature of the afterlife, perhaps both. Either way, the advent of death should be welcomed, imo.If I have restated anyone else's posts I am sorry, didn't feel like reading through them.
Because regardless of whether or not the experience is wondorful, none of us truly know what it's like...
For all we know, what if Athiests are right? What if we become absolutely nothing we die ? What a horrible reality that would be, wouldn't it ?
We don't know...
And on top of that, when someone you love dies, you don't truly know if you will EVER see them again....that SEPARATION is what HURTS so much...not necessarily the death itself, but the separation from your beloved is excruciatingly painful....
On top of that, if you know you are going to die tomorrow, likewise, you have no idea if you may ever see your loved ones again....
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Originally posted by Lord UrizenHow can "nothing" inspire fear? If loved ones exist beyond this life then there is no need for fear or sadness. If they do not, it renders such attachments continuing past death as of no value. How does this inspire fear and sadness?
Because regardless of whether or not the experience is wondorful, none of us truly know what it's like...For all we know, what if Athiests are right? What if we become absolutely nothing we die ? What a horrible reality that would be, wouldn't it ?
We don't know...
And on top of that, when someone you love dies, you don't truly know if you will EVER see them again....that SEPARATION is what HURTS so much...not necessarily the death itself, but the separation from your beloved is excruciatingly painful....
On top of that, if you know you are going to die tomorrow, likewise, you have no idea if you may ever see your loved ones again....
I'm really not afraid to die, honestly......................I would feel a bit of relief of some sort.........Life is a struggle!..I would miss it soooo much though......so much...but I think that this is just another play we have chose for our own benefit..............this is only another play........You make it what it is.........and with this..........it doesn't bother me that my time would come.......
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Originally posted by sonnet
If you were facing death at this very moment, would it scare you.? Will you be at peace because you know where you are going?Many people because of their religion say they are sure about what happens when you die and afterwards. I think that even if you believe you do know it must be scary knowing that you are about to leave all that is familiar to you.
hmm.... maybe sorta scared, but i know that i'm going to heaven soo...
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Originally posted by Regret
How can "nothing" inspire fear? If loved ones exist beyond this life then there is no need for fear or sadness. If they do not, it renders such attachments continuing past death as of no value. How does this inspire fear and sadness?
Becoming nothing may inspire either fear or depression of some sort. I, personally, would rather end up as some form of existance, than cease to be...
Whether or not loved ones exist after this life is irrelevant, because you may or may not ever see them again, either way. If you're relative was lost on an uncharted island, but you have no confirmation of his or her death, you'd still be in worry and pain.
Likewise, if your loved one died, you really have no idea what happens to them...and either way, whether thier afterlife is good or not, you may never see them again.....that's enough reason to be upset.
I disagree with your third state....relationships do not need to be eternal to hold any personal value.
I don't care if my mother ceases to exist after her life is done. I still love her the same, regardless. If you found out that you and your mother will stop existing after your lives are over, will you stop loving her? Will you stop caring about her, and render your relationship with her "of no value" ?