Re: Explain Real If you Can
Originally posted by debbiejo
Can you explain what "Real" is...Hope this wasn't done before.
Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
You are asking to exclaim something that we can not exclaim.It is inpossible to exclaim the meaning of Real even looking it up in the dictionary does not help.JM
Okay, I'll exclaim it: "The Meaning of Real even looking it up in the dictionary does not help.JM"
I did it!
What about a schizophrenic person who "Real Thinks" things are real..To them it is real...Could it be that they have tapped into something that we cannot sense. There is so much we don't know about "Real". Look at kids with autism. Some of them are brilliant, when the rest of us feel we are more intelligent then them...
"real" is really nothing, other then what we make it. to define what is real and what is not real is subjective and impossible to correctly define. unless you have some kind of omniscient mind, then its not possible, and since people do not, we can never really define it.
"what is real, how do you define real, if your talking about hat we can hear, touch, taste, and smell then real is nothing more then electrical signals interpreted by our brain"
that is the truth, and since we sometimes "see" things that are not "real" (i.e. we see a shadow or a cat when its not really there) , etc. then our senses cannot be trusted, because if they can trick us once, whats to say they are not tricking us all the time...
so really real is nothing...
Real is the definition of something that ironically we can't define. In the beginning we know there is "something", so for arguements sake we will call it real. Everything else must unreal then by default. But there is a problem, no boundaries are set, where does real end, and the unreal begin. It's like pointing to two areas infront of you, (there 1) and (there 2). when does area (there 1) become area (there 2)?
Different occasion, different people, and different factors will change the boundaries accordingly.
is there a boundary?
And the answer is....
I DONT KNOW! haha hehe... man I'm hungry
Real to me is determined by my senses. Anything outside of my senses is based on degrees of separation from those senses and from the knowledge I have structured to classify things that have come into the my fields of perception. Therefore my reality is extended beyond my immediate proximity. You can say that my reality is flexible from a top down to a bottom up perception based on how I am using my senses and what I am sensing with how I am processing the information I recieve. Thereby my reality can be different from others.
Originally posted by calvinNhobbes
Real to me is determined by my senses. Anything outside of my senses is based on degrees of separation from those senses and from the knowledge I have structured to classify things that have come into the my fields of perception. Therefore my reality is extended beyond my immediate proximity. You can say that my reality is flexible from a top down to a bottom up perception based on how I am using my senses and what I am sensing with how I am processing the information I recieve. Thereby my reality can be different from others.
I like that, your senses...That could also include our 6th sense. Though we can all use our sixth sense and say what we preceive is real, the next person, not using the sixth sense, may not say it is...Though infact it really is...just unsensed so to say.
Originally posted by debbiejo
What about a schizophrenic person who "Real Thinks" things are real..To them it is real...Could it be that they have tapped into something that we cannot sense. There is so much we don't know about "Real". Look at kids with autism. Some of them are brilliant, when the rest of us feel we are more intelligent then them...
No, and no. Schizphrenic people have a mental disorder that causes them to create images in their heads, like being on acid, only less fun. What they are seeing is not "real"—the vision is real, but it doesn't exist. We can define "real," though we can't always be sure that something IS real.
Autistic people are no more or less intelligent than non autistic people, they merely think differently. Often when an autistic individual is exceptional in one area, they are hardly functioning in other areas. Others just think differently, not excelling in any one area, but not sucking in any one area either.
And I am going to make Matrix reference here... The fact that you can see or hear something doesn't make it real. Hence, hallucinations.
Derr, I know what left and right brained are. But I don't believe that anybody is strictly left or right. I'm a very logical thinker when it comes to philosophy and so forth, but I'm also creative. And it's not that I don't look at all possibilities, it's just that I think quite a lot of them are shit.