NJO Luke - Powerful?

Originally posted by starwarsfreak34
the best thing about the NJO is that we learn the true nature of the FOrce--there is NO dark or light side. also this is sort of going to continue well into the next series. here is my top ten fav things about the NJO:

Anakin Solo
Jacen Solo
Star by Star
Anakin's Death (not in a nasty way because it is so f***ing awesome and i always cry when readin it.)
Vergere and her multiple defections and dubious/ambiguous nature
Traitor
The spectacular Battle for Coruscant (Star by Star and UF)
The Anakin/Jacen/Luke/Kyp Force pole thing (Edge of Victory)
Anakin and Tahiri relationship
The Chiss

this isn't in order of liking, just the top ten abosoloute best stuff

Um, the part about nodark side and no light side, contradicts with the Lucas' whole image of Star Wars man.

Originally posted by HimoKun
Um, the part about nodark side and no light side, contradicts with the Lucas' whole image of Star Wars man.

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It was a different story than originals. They fought people from OUTSIDE the original galaxy and no one other than the Emperor knew about them. Just because Yoda never met them doesn't mean that they don't exist. That's like bitching because they made a new flavor of ice cream.

Yes, but Exar Kun fled from the Jedi and suck the life force out of the Massassi Warriors, not very brave, which is why he's not seen as a god. Also no one said Luke was a god, I don't know where your getting this stuff. Luke is just a very powerful Jedi Master...possibly the strongest ever, however this does not make him a god.

NJO Luke is NOT a GOD !!!
THe GOd iN The StaR warS UnivERsE is GEORGE LUCAS !!!

He is just the STRONGEST CHARACTER second to GOD (GL)

Originally posted by Fishy
"all things are connected by the force. Between you and me, between the rock and tree, even between the plane and land" - Yoda or something like that.

All things, it does contradict with the movies with that... But killing thousands does not make you god. Exar Kun faced 10.000 Jedi at the end of his life and managed to shake them up quite badly... He isn't seen as god.

in actual fact it doesn't contraidct the movies at all. the vong WERE part of the force. the problem was that the Jedi lacked the ability to sense them because of (i) the force was stripped from the vong in retribution for their crimes or war (before invading the SW galaxy) and (ii) the Jedi had their own limits which they needed to surpass--which jacen did (and anakin in a way) which allowed him to sense the vong.

Originally posted by HimoKun
Um, the part about nodark side and no light side, contradicts with the Lucas' whole image of Star Wars man.

it depends on your point of view. some would say that GL meant for things to come to this because it progresses the star wars story. and its true because its what you use the force that counts. the Force cant take sides because its not something tangible

ImmortalONe--i agree GL IS god. luke isn't. i don't like him enough personally to believe he is a god in the NJO (ganner rhysode on the other hand, maybe). but to be honest luke just kicks shit in the NJO

okay these are things said that supposedly came from books and comics....(EU)Luke can fall from space to a planet THROUGH an atmosphere and land unharmed. As I understand he doesnt need to breathe either to live. He indulged in the darkside and came back to light side no sweat. He can prevent a star destroyer from blowing up... None else can control the force like him or has ever shown abilities such as his in the EU....that im aware of...I personally have not read all these things (some but some comes from other forums who have covered this same issue before "what makes Luke so badass"....anyone to back this up or slam it go fer it...but if the above is all true....There is more but I think those are enough examples to prove hes the baddest ass jedi master ever....Falling from space to a planets surface unscaithed just takes the cake...

Originally posted by TraptUnderIce
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It was a different story than originals. They fought people from OUTSIDE the original galaxy and no one other than the Emperor knew about them. Just because Yoda never met them doesn't mean that they don't exist. That's like bitching because they made a new flavor of ice cream.

actually obi-wan and anakin did know about the vong, as did tarkin. but they knew them as the far outsiders, not the yuuzhan vong

wow, finally some peeps who have read NJO, ok, first, "He indulged in the darkside and came back to light side no sweat." he said him self to kyp that it was hard, took time, and the love of friends and family, as for the atmosphere thing, i only know of once, and that was being incerted into coruscant after the fall to the vong, the other stuff ive never heard of,
on to the y luke is so awesome!! <first id like to say that anakin is my fav in this series and i was majorly ticked when he died> ok, u want to know why beating the vong was so hard? its because they walked through everything the NR could throw at them, literally, they just walked right through it, sure it took its toll on them, but the tech. of the vong was something the NR had never seen, whereas the vong knew of machines and how to break them, so basically u had guys throwing rocks <the NR> at peeps in tanks <the vong> now, luke doesnt like fighting if he can help it, but when he finally steps into the ring, well, the whole situation switches, he is the tank launghing nukes at the guys throwing rocks at the giant missles falling from the sky
examples, hmmm, give me a second, odviously they have mentioned when jacen was captured, and if im not mistaken, he was the first one to kill a vong <on Belkadan> they mentioned the killing of the thousands, as well as killing the head boss dude who you have to read about to truly understand that accomplishment
Luke truly is awesome in this series, but lets not forget the others, imagine if Anakin had lived, in one book someone mentions that they believed anakin was close to figuring out the vong/force connection, and he was just a kid! Luke didnt get that until much later, Jacen was also amazing, with vergere <thats prob spelled wrong but im tired> help, he created a Vong sence as well as a totally new understanding of the force <yes, thats right kiddies, there is NO DARK OR LIGHT, think about it, the force is universal, all encircling, everything is in it (yup, the vong where in it once too, and i believe still are, cause if i recall right, the whole thing about the force bein taken from them was just a theory) and if everything is in it, dark and light, then it cant be either or, its like time, time is simply how humans percieve change, we must also look at dark and light as percieving how people behave in accordance to a universel set of rules <which i believe are universal cause they where set down by the REAL GOD when he created us> we see how someone uses the force and then compare that USE to the rules to decide if the action was dark or light>
Neway, if this wasnt a forum and if i didnt have work tomorrow, i could go on and on in a debate about the force and etc......but i like the NJO alot, its a good series, read it!!

In his own words

Luke is named after Lucas...Therefore, at least theoretically, Luke is the most powerful SW character ever, if but on a subconscious level...

1) Luke was able to charge through the entire Yuuzhan Vong HQ, basically on his own (yes Jacen and Jaina were with him, but it says in TUF that they did almost no work). Since this is the place where the YV leader is, there would be thousands of Vong, maybe even 10 000 or more, yet Luke wasted them all.

2) After doing that, he faced off against 7 or 8 slayers, can't remember which, either way it is impressive, Kyp who is supposedly very powerful could not even take one and he landed dozens of hits. Yet Luke was able to kill them with one hit, that means he is either exceptionally strong, or he was powering his weapon with the force.

3) Then he defeated the Supreme Overlord, who on his own would be a match for many jedi.

4) In the final YV battle, Luke used an unknown power, to instantly kill a slayer. It is described as being like green sparks (so maybe force lightning). Jaina also describes him as being like the centre of the force. The force flowing through him, he was like a malestrom of force energy, unstoppable. Jaina also described him as being calm and focused, and his blade with like 10 or 20, all moving at the same time, with one purpose.

5) Luke was also able to manipulate black holes and gravity.

6) Luke was also able to knock down AT-AT's like they were nothing, he could also destroy entire armies with the force.

7) In the Black Fleet Crisis, Luke removed an entire planet from view using the force, he said it should last indefinently. He was also able to make himself invisible and unable to be sensed through the force. Also in the Black Fleet Crisis Luke rebuilt Vader's old fortress, he also made it invisible. He did all this with out being sensed through the force, and this is on Courscant.

8) Luke also trained underneath the clone emperor, so he would know about the sith as well as the jedi. Luke also defeated the Emperor's force storm, which was massive and able to destroy ships.

9) After defeating the clone emperor, Luke discovered an ancient jedi library, with long forgotten knowledge. Luke also didn't restrict his knowledge to just the jedi, he hunted all over the galaxy, searching for knowledge and power from everyone he met. Luke also learned under the emperor and used the emperors library (which contains sith knowledge from over 1000 years).

10) Finally, Luke deflected the emperors lightning for a bit in RotJ (special edition book and script), this was the first time he had ever seen this power so the fact that he could deflect it for a bit when it was the first time he had ever seen it is very impressive. Even more so when you consider that Yoda even had some trouble deflecting it in RotS.