Originally posted by Sesse
The winner is simpple to find out.What did Yoda want from that fight?
What did Sidious want from that fight?Yoda wanted to kill Sidious. Sidious wanted to stay alive. Sidious won, Yoda lost.
Sidious wanted to kill Yoda, he had awaited along time remember.
And there are ties in the NFL, not many.
Sidious wanted Yoda dead. He did not begin the fight with the intention of fighthing, but as it carried on it is very obvious Sidious wanted Yoda dead. He did NOT simply want to stay alive. He had PLENTY of oppurtunities to escape during the duel, but he did not. He was the more aggressive of the two combatants, and was more offensive, attacking more. To say he wanted only to stay alive is fallacious.
In my book, Sidious lost the second he tried to run away. Opponents argue that it doesn't matter because once he started the fight his actions are what matter, not his initial retreat. If this is the case, then we must accept that once his route was blocked, Sidious changed his goal from escape to killing Yoda, and he did not succede and it is a stalemate, with neither party achieving success. If this is not the case than Sidious lost by running away at the beginning, as I would argue.
From one of the other threads on the subject. 😛
http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1F6SS8AOV2DAF21XLQB5LTLH3Z
To me that clearly screams draw, had Yoda's saber not been fried the fight would have continued.
"I think Yoda clearly was better. You saw it through out the fight. In the lightsaber fight yoda is clearly the aggressor while Palps is simply to trying to stay alive. So then Palps moves the fight to long range where he thinks he has a possible advantage. Now yoda catches a pod thrown by Palps then throws it back at him. Instead of Palps catching it he has to move making me think he thought he couldn't stop it. Next Yoda tries to get close to him again then Palps hits him with all the force lighting that he gots, but yoda throws it back at him but yoda looses his balance and takes the worst fall of the two. Now Yoda's lightsaber is broken and he hears troops coming. Infact palp's sends other people to go find him not himself. What I think happened was Yoda knew he was stronger and went to fight Palps and gain a quick kill.
This is obviously when Palps would be at his least guarded, but Plaps did just enough to stay off Yoda till reinforcements arrived. Yoda his lightsaber was destroyed and that even though he would probaly win a solo fight eventually his window of oppurtunity had closed. Now he would have to fight Palps+an army w/o a lightsaber so he had to flee realizing he couldn't fulfill his mission. No doubt Yoda>Palps"
This is what I posted in another thread and I could post it here too face it guys no matter what you say everyone has their takes on the fight and it isn't going to change.