wolverine as herald vs anyone

Started by long pig5 pages

It happend, but not in continuity.
It's basically what if's, kinda like Wolverine vs newyork or the marvel universe, or punisher vs marvel universe.
Doesn't stand.

The reason I don't really care too much about cross overs is the fact that each company is trying to write their character to its best WITHOUT insulting the other company's character.
They know it means nothing when it comes to continuity, so they just try to make it a good read.

I'm more likely to judge a character on his/her accomplishments that are in continuity, and not out of that characters range.

It's common sense to dismiss a character's accomplishments, if said accomplishments go so far beyond his ability without any explaination for it, other than he's become uber popular, and they want to appease the fans.

Just use yer noggin, and nobody get's their feelings hurt.

good words long pig and you make a great point. When it comes to wolverine though, im not seeing much that he cant accomplish, sense the guy does have the most dangerous weapons in marvel and is classified as 1 of the best fighter they have.

i have seen wolverine accomplish things like fighting hundreds of aliens that had the power to do anything and killing them with ease. wolverine greatest enemy, sabertooth, fought superman clones and beat them. The lobo vs wolverine fight i think wolverine does have the capability to take down lobo, not the bone claw wolverine, which is what they pitted against lobo during the dc vs marvel but the adamantium wolverine would give lobo a run for his money. Lobo does have great strength but wolverine deals with that everyday, strength isnt nothing to wolverine, its been a while since i have seen the guy get taken down by strength alone and thats what lobo is, nothing but a character with pure strength.

Wolverine has the speed, fighting ability, agility, healing factor, adamantium claws, and acute senses to back him up in a fight with lobo. Lobo dont fight people like that everyday, whereas wolverine fights people like lobo all of the time. thats the way i see it. Long pig i seen you bring up the fight with slade and wonderwomen plenty of times, same thing im doing.

:destroys long pig:

Wolverine as a herald? He wouldn't hold back, that's for sure. Ugh... d'you think Marvel would do that?

everyone else has taken control of wolverine; why not galactus.

I bring up WW's fight to show Slade's speed, nothing else.

Heh, "Lobo don't fight people like that everyday"....😂

I think Shade could take him. He used to toy with Jay Garrick and is almost clayface-like with his shadows.

Maybe Mastermind could pull something off.

Originally posted by derrick24
Wolverine has the speed, fighting ability, agility, healing factor, adamantium claws, and acute senses to back him up in a fight with lobo. Lobo dont fight people like that everyday, whereas wolverine fights people like lobo all of the time. thats the way i see it.

Lobo has all that stuff. Plus durability. And like a million times greater than Wolverine too.

Lobo would destroy Wolverine.

Wasn't Wolvie's win on Lobo a vote, though? Unless you're talking about a different crossover I'm unaware of, I'm pretty sure during that event, fans were able to vote the outcomes on five of the battles. At least... I remember filling out a card that said so. Stupid me didn't know Lobo back then and chose Wolverine.

But even IF Lobo had a chance against that Wolverine, he'd have nothing against this one. I'd like to say that a Batman/Deathstroke team would break Herald Wolverine--even if it is just a dream... *sigh*

It was fanbased and no one actually took it seriously.
No body in their right mind actually thinks wolvie could take Lobo.

Re: wolverine as herald vs anyone

Does anyone else see anything wrong with this scenario? If Wolverine is turned into a herald...why will his strength only be 50 ton class when other heralds are generally ing the 100+ class?

Heal any wound in a matter of seconds? Can't surfer do this anyway?

God like reflexes and speed increase? Seems to me like he's weaker than surfer..

Originally posted by derrick24
This is the powers im going to grant wolverine who has possessed cosmic powers from galactus.

1. Increase in strength in the 50 ton class.
2. Increase his healing factor, where he could heal any wound in a matter of seconds.
3. god like reflexes and speed increase.
4. Senses has been increased. He can now smell anyone that he has already smelled in the past or present and find them anywhere and sight and hearing has been increased.
5. He can control his mass (so that if anyone tries to use the throw in the sun trick).

The reason why i increased his strength was because since you all stated that since he dont have enough strength to cut thru indestructible beings, now he should have more than enough.

you saw and read because marvel and dc are the writers instead of us and i think that they know there characters alot better than we do.

Newsflash: The battle was fan-voted. Wolverine won because fans wanted it. And Wolverine has more fans then Lobo has.

I mean, how an BONE-CLAWED Wolverine can beat an being who has:

Class 100 superstrength

Better healing then Wolverine has

Durable enough to take an punch from SUPERMAN and not care about it much and survive in vacuum of space

Analytical mind that can quickly analyze an opponent and find its primary weakness.

Double-post...

Re: Re: wolverine as herald vs anyone

Originally posted by JWangSDC
Does anyone else see anything wrong with this scenario? If Wolverine is turned into a herald...why will his strength only be 50 ton class when other heralds are generally ing the 100+ class?

Heal any wound in a matter of seconds? Can't surfer do this anyway?

God like reflexes and speed increase? Seems to me like he's weaker than surfer..

Firelord is Class 50.

Originally posted by derrick24
Wolverine has the speed, fighting ability, agility, healing factor, adamantium claws, and acute senses to back him up in a fight with lobo. Lobo dont fight people like that everyday, whereas wolverine fights people like lobo all of the time. thats the way i see it. Long pig i seen you bring up the fight with slade and wonderwomen plenty of times, same thing im doing.

Lobo's faster, as good a fighter, has a better healing factor, has rather high durability even for someone in his weight class, and has good senses. Lobo fights people stronger than him on a regular bases, maybe not everyday, but probably more often than Wolvie.

Finally, Slade fighting Wonder Woman is nothing like Wolvie fighting Lobo.

the reason i gave wolverine 50 ton strength is because he uses his claws in fights if he was in the 100 ton level why would he need his adamantium claws when he could just beat you to death.
This wolverine could cut thru silver surfer with no problem because of his strength increase.

And everyone who's bringing up the wolverine vs lobo fight; answer this question, why would marvel and dc pit these 2 fighters together, if they didnt think wolverine was worthy.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Newsflash: The battle was fan-voted. Wolverine won because fans wanted it. And Wolverine has more fans then Lobo has.

I mean, how an BONE-CLAWED Wolverine can beat an being who has:

Class 100 superstrength

Better healing then Wolverine has

Durable enough to take an punch from SUPERMAN and not care about it much and survive in vacuum of space

Analytical mind that can quickly analyze an opponent and find its primary weakness.

I don't know?how does he go fist to fist with the Hulk?

Originally posted by derrick24
the reason i gave wolverine 50 ton strength is because he uses his claws in fights if he was in the 100 ton level why would he need his adamantium claws when he could just beat you to death.
This wolverine could cut thru silver surfer with no problem because of his strength increase.

I doubt it. I know Cable broke his board but I seriously doubt 50ton adamantium clawed Wolverine has the power of cable behind each stab
And everyone who's bringing up the wolverine vs lobo fight; answer this question, why would marvel and dc pit these 2 fighters together, if they didnt think wolverine was worthy.

It was just a popularity contest.

If Wolverine was at Superman level, do you think regular Wolverine could take him?

Originally posted by mr.smiley
I don't know?how does he go fist to fist with the Hulk?

Hulk isn't insanely fast like Lobo is.

dude the only reason they were pitted against each other is because both are badasses with incredible healing factors.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
dude the only reason they were pitted against each other is because both are badasses with incredible healing factors.

So thats why they pitted storm and wonder women because wonder women also controls weather. Thats why they pitted hulk and superman because hulk shoots heat vision and can fly and superman has a healing factor like the hulk and can change gray also. Thats why they had batman and captain america against each other because batman has a shield and captain america has a batarang. Thats why they had silver surfer vs green latern because silver surfer also has a weapon that could create any weapon he imagines. No they partnered them because of what they are capable of. They had them against each other because they know that either one of them could beat the other. Like thanos vs darkseid, anyone of them could win. Your argument dont make sense. Wolverine can beat lobo, not a bone claw wolverine, but adamantium wolverine would be more than a challenge.

Originally posted by derrick24
Wolverine can beat lobo

How?
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If Wolverine was at Superman level, do you think regular Wolverine could take him?

And answer this question.

Originally posted by derrick24
So thats why they pitted storm and wonder women because wonder women also controls weather. Thats why they pitted hulk and superman because hulk shoots heat vision and can fly and superman has a healing factor like the hulk and can change gray also. Thats why they had batman and captain america against each other because batman has a shield and captain america has a batarang. Thats why they had silver surfer vs green latern because silver surfer also has a weapon that could create any weapon he imagines. No they partnered them because of what they are capable of. They had them against each other because they know that either one of them could beat the other. Like thanos vs darkseid, anyone of them could win. Your argument dont make sense. Wolverine can beat lobo, not a bone claw wolverine, but adamantium wolverine would be more than a challenge.

Wonder Woman controls weather? 🤨

Superman has a healing factor? 🤨

Captain America has a batarang?! 🤨

Wolverine could beat Lobo?!? 🤨 😆