About darth nihilus

Started by Darth Mantis5 pages

No, no that's what darth yoda said... Okay I'll prove my theory from your post... Okay, so you said that it was probably after or during KOTOR 1... So it means that the exile could of not possibly been created from the exile because he was feeding during KOTOR 1 or just after... That means the war didn't even start, he didn't get his special ability and could of not created Nihilus because of what you stated that he was feeding before the war even started... So, Nihilus lived before the exile even was in the war...

Mantis, your logic is flawed.

The Mandalorian Wars ended four years before KotOR I, (and thus the Jedi Civil War ended four years after The Mandalorian Wars). The Exile was an officer under Revan during The Mandalorian Wars, and after Malachor V, he went before the Jedi Council and was sent into exile, (thus the name).

KotOR II takes place five years later.

Thus, Nihilius would have had to have destroyed Visas' homeworld and killed off the Jedi who ventured there to draw out the Dark Power during that five year period, not ten or twenty years before KotOR I or KotOR II.

Approximately how long ago did Traya teach Nihilus and Sion... During the time of KOTOR and KOTOR II?

I don't know, and I am very sure it's never been "officially" discussed.
It would seem to be that she taught Sion probably before KotOR I, but Nihilius....

See, that's the major problem with KotOR II, IMO. OBSIDIAN left too many plot-holes, and unended storylines. I believe the whole Nihilius situation was supposed to be left up to the player to decide....

Well if Nihilus was part of the Exile and separated from him... How come the Exile didn't try to make him an ally or try to kill him... There is a lot of plot holes in the story...

Well here is something for everyone's personal enjoyment... I don't know if it true or false... I just found this on the internet, so enjoy...

Origins

Darth Nihilus suffers from constant pain when his parents are of two different races: - an insectiod race and near human race. That he has major physical defects that his body sometimes rejects him by having his nervous system, his immune system and his respiratory system. Firstly, is his respiratory system, which his heart almost shuts down that his heart needs more power to sustain it and his lungs sometimes find it hard to breathe. Secondly, his nervous system is out of sync like when he feels different to temperature change. Thirdly, is his immune system which his immune system does sometimes attacks his own cells than fighting foreign organisms. Also, he has other defects like his face is mess up that it looked like his face messed up so that it looked like a complete mess. This is why he wears isolation mask and cloak but rarely can he take his whole suit off. Also, his very speech can inflict pain and death to people who are near him.

Background Info

Little is known of Nihilus's true beginnings, other than the fact that he was a survivor of the Mandalorian Wars, and may or may not have at one point been a prisoner of the Mandalorians. After the war he was found by Darth Traya to be Force-sensitive, and she began training him in the ways of the Sith at the Trayus Academy on Malachor V. After his true powers and potential were realized, Nihilus, along with fellow Sith student Darth Sion, plotted and turned against their dark mistress Traya. They cast Traya down, stripped her of her power, and expelled her from the Sith Order. Nihilus and Sion had now begun their shadow war against the remnants of the Jedi Order. They hunted Jedi to the brink of extinction.

Darth Nihilus ravaged and consumed whole worlds, to feed his insatiable appetite for power, from the bridge of his flagship, the Ravager. Nihilus powers were so all-consuming that all those who came into contact with the Sith Lord became slaves, mindless servants to his will. Darth Nihilius was once the greatest Sith Lord.

One such servant of Nihilus was Visas Marr, a Miraluka female from Katarr, a planet consumed and destroyed by Nihilus. The Sith Lord sent Visas on a mission to find and bring the last of the Jedi before him, so that he could consume his power and essence. However, this would be the mighty Sith Lord's undoing, for the Jedi exile broke her from Nihilus's bonds, and she turned against her former master. Along with the exile and Mandalore, she defeated him on board the bridge of the Ravager. After his death, his body dissolved in an aura of dark side energies.

What happened to Nihilus after his body dissolved is unknown. Whether he is truly gone, or should return again to challenge the Jedi and the Republic, shall remain a mystery. Interestingly, his true identity is not revealed even when Visas looks at his face after his defeat, leaving questions about whether his previous personality may have been anyone of consequence.

But before Nihilus was supposedly killed, his essence traveled to one of the Leviathan Class Destroyer and they all left the battle over Telos when first true Star Destroyer, Ravager was destroyed and whereabouts of this destroyer and others is unknown. Only he knows where it is. He has two HK-Series Droids that these droids are assassin and protocol droids and serve as pilots. The reborn Nihilus went into stasis for a very long time that his droids were always kept an update of recent events. Now he is eager to regain his lost title as the Sith Lord.

Darth Nihilus no longer consumes the Force from Force-sensitives in order to stay alive now since his hunger is gone. He no longer has his voice to cause any pain and death to those who hear it. For thousands of years, his connection to the Force is weaken since he was under ice for a long time.

Where did you get that, pray tell?
Please provide a link as well, so we could verify. 😉

Thanks darth mantis 4 the info

thams 4 the info darth mantis

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Originally posted by DCLXVI
Where did you get that, pray tell?
Please provide a link as well, so we could verify. 😉
Why, it's probably false information... But it keeps me intertained...

darth , i read that nihulis name in latin means "nothing"

is that ture???

Originally posted by Darth Mantis
No, no that's what darth yoda said... Okay I'll prove my theory from your post... Okay, so you said that it was probably after or during KOTOR 1... So it means that the exile could of not possibly been created from the exile because he was feeding during KOTOR 1 or just after... That means the war didn't even start, he didn't get his special ability and could of not created Nihilus because of what you stated that he was feeding before the war even started... So, Nihilus lived before the exile even was in the war...

Okay some random facts

The Mandelorian wars ended 1 year before the Jedi Civil war started

The Jedi civil war lasted 2.5 years

5 Years later we Have Kotor II and Nihilus

Nihilus was found on Malachor thats where he got his ship from he was stranded there..

He could not have been there for more then 8.5 years at the start of Kotor II.

Kreia trained him at Malachor so he was there after it.

The planet Visas talks about was destroyed after Kotor 1. Between 1 and 5 years after it.

The Jedi went to that planet to discuss what to do about this new threat, its said in Kotor II, meaning that Visas couldn't have been around Nihilus for more then 5 years...

She was aruond even less becuase they didn't go that planet immediately.

There is also nothing to suggest that Nihilus isn't a really new thread, not more then a year old at most.

That post you made I don't know where you got it from but thats bullshit...

The HK droids were made by G0-T0 (ask me some other time don't feel like explaining now)

Overall what me and Janus said about Nihilus is far more likely then that post that tries to make it look like a fact. It isn't.

Originally posted by Darth_Nihilus
darth , i read that nihulis name in latin means "nothing"

Yes...

id like to belive mantis but i just cant i dont no why but fishy u seem a lot mor trusworthy any what the hell is a criss and how can nihilus be a sith when they died out long befor kotor i think they did any way

Originally posted by darth-yoda
id like to belive mantis but i just cant i dont no why but fishy u seem a lot mor trusworthy any what the hell is a criss and how can nihilus be a sith when they died out long befor kotor i think they did any way

Died out isn't sure, they are hiding however... Its hard to believe that one Sith especially one with the power of Nihilus would go out alone. You would be so much better of to start a full out invasion. Besides if what Mantis claims about Nihilus is true he would have had to be the leader of the Sith. Why would he not take his lower in rank with him? And how the hell did he not eat them yet? Why did he fight with the Jedi at Malachor? What the hell was he even doing there if he was a true Sith?

There were Jedi and Republic soldiers there, if he really was a Sith he would have been discovered and killed by Revan or discovered and used by Revan. It also seems strange that he just learned how to eat people from Kreia. Because if Kreia could teach that she could never have been defeated... She would have owned the galaxy.

Do not forget, Nihilus was blinded by his hunger... He had to be forced out of hiding to consume the force... Just because the Exile has a special gift does not mean Nihilus was a spawn of the darkside created by the exile... Yeah I just figured out that the war was before Kotor 1, I didn't realise it till now sorry...

Originally posted by Fishy
Died out isn't sure, they are hiding however... Its hard to believe that one Sith especially one with the power of Nihilus would go out alone. You would be so much better of to start a full out invasion. Besides if what Mantis claims about Nihilus is true he would have had to be the leader of the Sith. Why would he not take his lower in rank with him? And how the hell did he not eat them yet? Why did he fight with the Jedi at Malachor? What the hell was he even doing there if he was a true Sith?

There were Jedi and Republic soldiers there, if he really was a Sith he would have been discovered and killed by Revan or discovered and used by Revan. It also seems strange that he just learned how to eat people from Kreia. Because if Kreia could teach that she could never have been defeated... She would have owned the galaxy.

It's not an ability you learn... Nihilus gained that ability because he has fallen so far to the darkside just like the Exile... But it doesn't mean that he was a part of the Exile... The war changed both of them, therefore giving each of them their new found ability...

He wouldn't be the leader of the sith because of one thing... If there are 100% full blood sith in the galaxy they would be the leader of the sith... And Fishy what I posted before was for everyone's enjoyment, I never said it was a fact; I never tried to make it look like a fact so what are you talking about...