Evo Apocalypse vs Marvel Earth
Evo Apocalypse from X-men Evoultion was strong enough to take out Magneto in a heart beat Professor X also He was strong enough to cover the entire planet in His energy His mental powers outclassed Professor X, made Jean Gray a puppet as well as most of the other X-men.
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Marvel Earth and all its Heros and villains
Re: Evo Apocalypse vs Marvel Earth
Originally posted by Mider
Evo Apocalypse from X-men Evoultion was strong enough to take out Magneto in a heart beat Professor X also He was strong enough to cover the entire planet in His energy His mental powers outclassed Professor X, made Jean Gray a puppet as well as most of the other X-men.VS
Marvel Earth and all its Heros and villains
Yup, he covered all Earth with his energy, which takes much more energy, power than destroying planet and when he covered Earth, he still had energy within him, he was damn powerful in Evo. His mental power easily outclassed full powered Xavier on Cerebro. I hope he will appear in such form soon in comic as he was in Evolution.
All heroes that fought Onslaught at the same time, Evo Apocalypse would crush them.
Im sure some retard will debate against that since the only comics they enjoy showing the majority of Apocalypse is X-men you always get the why does He lose to them if He is so powerful hmm why? maybe causeeee its an X-men comic and He is supposed to lose? Maybe that has something to do with it they never look at the time He stalemated The High Evoultionary or took a full scream from Black Bolk with out even budging and lets not forget Him fighting Savage Hulk. And at other times He has defeated Magneto.
Originally posted by Mider
Im sure some retard will debate against that since the only comics they enjoy showing the majority of Apocalypse is X-men you always get the why does He lose to them if He is so powerful hmm why? maybe causeeee its an X-men comic and He is supposed to lose? Maybe that has something to do with it they never look at the time He stalemated The High Evoultionary or took a full scream from Black Bolk with out even budging and lets not forget Him fighting Savage Hulk. And at other times He has defeated Magneto.
Agree, and those haters never look objectivly, he lost to X-Men, while they all know he is far more powerful than X-Men, they just say he lsot to X-Men, and never look objectivly.
Mider and Xplosive: I suggest you watch Evo again, maybe this time actually pay some attention. The stunts he pulled were pretty neat, but they were exactly that. Stunts. The whole "covered the entire planet with his energy" thing is crap. He used CELESTIAL TECHNOLOGY to do that, and himself to use as a battery. His own energy had nothing to do with it other than that. Everything he did, he did by using forementioned celestial technology. He was portrayed as much more powerful in Evo than in the comics, agreed. But don't take it that far.
As for the others, what he did was:
1. he didn't destroy Magneto, he basically teleported him, Mystique, Storm and Xavier into those 4 pillars in his chamber where the celestial technology merged with them, making them stronger and also his slaves. It wasn't his power that was doing that, it was the technology.
2. Xavier didn't mentally attack him, he was just talking when Apocalypse pulled that trick on him
3. He didn't make Jean Grey a puppet smartass, he increased Mesmero's powers, and he did that. Don't forget that Evo Mesmero was strong to begin with, and Apoc increased his strength.
4. He shot a sentinel with his OH SO MIGHTY blast and just budged it. The Sentinel shot back and threw Apoc into a mountain.
So....what did he really do battle-wise? oh yes...he defeated three sentinels and then had to send his horsemen to handle the rest.
🙄 oh yes...i bow down to his greatness....
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
Mider and Xplosive: I suggest you watch Evo again, maybe this time actually pay some attention. The stunts he pulled were pretty neat, but they were exactly that. Stunts. The whole "covered the entire planet with his energy" thing is crap. He used CELESTIAL TECHNOLOGY to do that, and himself to use as a battery. His own energy had nothing to do with it other than that. Everything he did, he did by using forementioned celestial technology. He was portrayed as much more powerful in Evo than in the comics, agreed. But don't take it that far.
As for the others, what he did was:1. he didn't destroy Magneto, he basically teleported him, Mystique, Storm and Xavier into those 4 pillars in his chamber where the celestial technology merged with them, making them stronger and also his slaves. It wasn't his power that was doing that, it was the technology.
2. Xavier didn't mentally attack him, he was just talking when Apocalypse pulled that trick on him
3. He didn't make Jean Grey a puppet smartass, he increased Mesmero's powers, and he did that. Don't forget that Evo Mesmero was strong to begin with, and Apoc increased his strength.
4. He shot a sentinel with his OH SO MIGHTY blast and just budged it. The Sentinel shot back and threw Apoc into a mountain.
So....what did he really do battle-wise? [b]oh yes...he defeated three sentinels and then had to send his horsemen to handle the rest.
🙄 oh yes...i bow down to his greatness....
~wickerman~ [/B]
Hey, you should understand little more cartoons. It was his energy that covered completely whole Earth, the Celestail device was only for turning humans to mutants, and Apocalypse gave his energy, power to the device and that energy was enough to cover entire Earth, and his energy completely surounded Earth. He went inside Sentinels, and he shot at Sentinel with 1 % (he just shot it easily and he defeat Sentienl in 10 seconds using little of his power and those sentinels were much more than oridanry Sentinels)). And Beast said, the device was powered by Apocalypse himself. His energy was the one which had everything, he proved he has power to cover completely whole Earth (and that from outside), completely. He could destroy in Evo Magneto with blink of and eye (actully all of those mutant togeter, he could kill them easily, but he left them). He was battery that covered whole Earth, Celestal device hadn't do anyhting, only scheme, device to turn humans to mutants through Apocalypse power.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Now it's obvious you're just guessing. Doesn't make for a solid case.
I am not guessing, 1%=almost nothing, hay Swanky-Tuna, use 1% of you athletic abilities, and what will you do with that, nothing, only in bed, when you will sleep, maybe you will turn to other side and even that will be obviusly more than 1% of using your abilites (1% means not moving), muscle, so I am not guessing, I said 1%, that is almost nothing.
Originally posted by Xplosive
I am not guessing, 1%=almost nothing, hay Swanky-Tuna, use 1% of you athletic abilities, and what will you do with that, nothing, only in bed, when you will sleep, maybe you will turn to other side and even that will be obviusly more than 1% of using your abilites (1% means not moving), muscle, so I am not guessing, I said 1%, that is almost nothing.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Hey, you should understand little more cartoons. It was his energy that covered completely whole Earth, the Celestail device was only for turning humans to mutants, and Apocalypse gave his energy, power to the device and that energy was enough to cover entire Earth, and his energy completely surounded Earth. He went inside Sentinels, and he shot at Sentinel with 1 % (he just shot it easily and he defeat Sentienl in 10 seconds using little of his power and those sentinels were much more than oridanry Sentinels)). And Beast said, the device was powered by Apocalypse himself. His energy was the one which had everything, he proved he has power to cover completely whole Earth (and that from outside), completely. He could destroy in Evo Magneto with blink of and eye (actully all of those mutant togeter, he could kill them easily, but he left them). He was battery that covered whole Earth, Celestal device hadn't do anyhting, only scheme, device to turn humans to mutants through Apocalypse power.
it wasn't his mutant power to do that. He just acted as a battery for the machine, which while impressive doesn't mean it was his energy that covered Earth, he was just using all that energy he had stolen from Rogue that had stolen it from all the others. Magneto, Xavier or any other mutant could have concievably done the same by putting themselves in that machine.
And you're only proving my point by saying his energy was enough to completely surround the Earth. If that's true, then why did he need the pyramids? Or the orbital relays (as Beast calls them?) And yeah, beast says the device would be powered by Apoc himself but that means absolutely nothing. And if you want reference, i'll give you the SIMPLEST of them all: Magneto using his power in X-men 1 to turn humans into mutants exactly like Apoc. The only difference: Magneto using his own technology, Apoc using STOLEN CELESTIAL TECH. Wow, he's so great.
As for the Sentinel, you're talking out of your ass man, sorry but it's true. The Evolution Sentinels are much stronger than the comic book ones, but if we're gonna talk about Evo Apoc we talk about Evo Sentinels. And hwo the hell do you know it was at 1% of his power? And even ASSUMING you're remotely correct (which you're obviously not), how do you explain the sentinel's blast sending Apoc flying and hitting that wall rock thingy?
And if when he used the blast on the Sentinel it was just 1% as you say, why didn't he use it at like 25% again? going by your arguments, that would've destroyed it...but no...he didn't. Why? Cause he couldn't. That's why.
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
it wasn't his mutant power to do that. He just acted as a battery for the machine, which while impressive doesn't mean it was his energy that covered Earth, he was just using all that energy he had stolen from Rogue that had stolen it from all the others. Magneto, Xavier or any other mutant could have concievably done the same by putting themselves in that machine.
And you're only proving my point by saying his energy was enough to completely surround the Earth. If that's true, then why did he need the pyramids? Or the orbital relays (as Beast calls them?) And yeah, beast says the device would be powered by Apoc himself but that means absolutely nothing. And if you want reference, i'll give you the SIMPLEST of them all: Magneto using his power in X-men 1 to turn humans into mutants exactly like Apoc. The only difference: Magneto using his own technology, Apoc using STOLEN CELESTIAL TECH. Wow, he's so great.As for the Sentinel, you're talking out of your ass man, sorry but it's true. The Evolution Sentinels are much stronger than the comic book ones, but if we're gonna talk about Evo Apoc we talk about Evo Sentinels. And hwo the hell do you know it was at 1% of his power? And even ASSUMING you're remotely correct (which you're obviously not), how do you explain the sentinel's blast sending Apoc flying and hitting that wall rock thingy?
And if when he used the blast on the Sentinel it was just 1% as you say, why didn't he use it at like 25% again? going by your arguments, that would've destroyed it...but no...he didn't. Why? Cause he couldn't. That's why.~wickerman~
What don't you get it:
It was his energy, he gave energy through machine and it was his energy, pwoer that covered Earth, he has such enormous energy in Evo, cause he is mutant, so it's because of his mutant power.
BEAST: The device was powered by Apocalypse himself.
He powered the device with his own energy, pwoer and that energy completely covered entire planet, and Apocalypse still had energy within him, altough he covered whole Earth.
''doesn't mean it was his energy that covered Earth''
Yes it does, it was his energy, that why he was weakening, it was draining his power to cover whole planet, but he still had energy left. So he has even more power than to cover planet.
Originally posted by Xplosive
What don't you get it:
It was his energy, he gave energy through machine and it was his energy, pwoer that covered Earth, he has such enormous energy in Evo, cause he is mutant, so it's because of his mutant power.BEAST: The device was powered by Apocalypse himself.
He powered the device with his own energy, pwoer and that energy completely covered entire planet, and Apocalypse still had energy within him, altough he covered whole Earth.
''doesn't mean it was his energy that covered Earth''
Yes it does, it was his energy, that why he was weakening, it was draining his power to cover whole planet, but he still had energy left. So he has even more power than to cover planet.
😆 😆 you're just hopeless man, if you don't want to understand logic and look beyond your fanboy'ism that's just fine
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
you're just hopeless man, if you don't want to understand logic and look beyond your fanboy'ism that's just fine~wickerman~
Oh my God, you can't think 😘. You will talk about logic, you don't know anything about it.
BEAST: The device was powered by Apocalypse himself.
By by Wickerman.
Originally posted by MiderYou'll have to be a little more specific...while I will agree that his showing in X-Men was FAR more impressive than in TAS and the comics, to think he can take out the ENTIRE Marvel Earth is preposterous.
Marvel Earth and all its Heros and villains
Make a list of which heroes and villains, we'll analyze it from there.
Originally posted by XplosiveWell obviously that was a veiled potshot at me...since I am proudly one of the biggest Apocalypse bashers on this site. Contrary to your brilliant assessment, one thing I always am is objective.
Agree, and those haters never look objectivly, he lost to X-Men, while they all know he is far more powerful than X-Men, they just say he lsot to X-Men, and never look objectivly.
You, sir, are very subjective in your defense of the big A, rarely pointing to facts, more to your personal opinions...so don't try to call the kettle my friend.
Mider, I will gladly engage in a civil conversation with you about Apoc, but again you have to make some sort of list first.
Originally posted by Mider
Im sure some retard will debate against that since the only comics they enjoy showing the majority of Apocalypse is X-men you always get the why does He lose to them if He is so powerful hmm why? maybe causeeee its an X-men comic and He is supposed to lose? Maybe that has something to do with it they never look at the time He stalemated The High Evoultionary or took a full scream from Black Bolk with out even budging and lets not forget Him fighting Savage Hulk. And at other times He has defeated Magneto.
ever considered the fact that its the other way around? 🙄
bad writing is whatever you want it to be.