This is pretty straightforward. Vader fought a much weaker version of Obi-Wan in ANH. Obi-Wan let Vader kill him, so I didn't see any advantage for Vader whatsoever, and since we are talking about a much more powerful version of Obi-Wan who totally rocked the house in ROTS, I think we have an easy victory for General Kenobi, or should I say "Keninja" 😎
Obi Wan but not as easy as some people make it seem. Vader had not fought anybody for twenty years, at least not anybody powerful thats going to suck for him and give Obi a huge edge, but Vader his control over the force and how calm he is greatly improved not to mention that he wouldn't be as stupid as he was in Rots anymore. He is going to give Obi a run for his money before he dies.
He is the Chosen One! He is the most powerful force user ever. The prequels leave us no doubt of that. Lucas even said anakin was more powerful in the battle in episode iii, but obi-wan had more experience, was more calm and composed, and anakin was more rash and stupid. By episode IV he's much less young and idiotic.
Originally posted by Darth Crazo
He is the Chosen One! He is the most powerful force user ever. The prequels leave us no doubt of that. Lucas even said anakin was more powerful in the battle in episode iii, but obi-wan had more experience, was more calm and composed, and anakin was more rash and stupid. By episode IV he's much less young and idiotic.
Vader is not as powerful as Anakin is because he got his legs cut of during that battle in RotS by Obi-Wan. That is one of Lucas statements. So he would be more experienced but compared to RotS:
- out of combat training
- less powerfull
- not as fast as in RotS since he has artificial legs
And Obi-Wan is still the better swordfighter of them. Vader gets killed here.
Ok, A. He is certainly not out of combat training. Against real, live jedi, sure. But he still trains.
Plus, we've all already seen the real answer to this question in episode IV. Age matters not. If you don't believe me, just look at:
Yoda
The Emperor
Count Dooku
For some very obvious examples, though there are many others. I have stated that it would be a close fight, but Vader would win. He may not be better with a saber, but he would use the force somehow.
Originally posted by Darth Crazo
Ok, A. He is certainly not out of combat training. Against real, live jedi, sure. But he still trains.
Plus, we've all already seen the real answer to this question in episode IV. Age matters not. If you don't believe me, just look at:Yoda
The Emperor
Count DookuFor some very obvious examples, though there are many others. I have stated that it would be a close fight, but Vader would win. He may not be better with a saber, but he would use the force somehow.
What the hell you are talking about age ?
RotS Obi-Wan is 38 years old.
ANH Vader is 41 year old / 45 years in ROTJ.
And you haven't answered the points:
- that he has less force power than in RotS
- that he has two artificial legs that would make him slower
- Obi-Wan is still in advance in lightsaber combat
And Vader using the force ? To do what ? Force grip Obi-Wan ? LMAO.