Did Darth Plageus or Sidious spawn, by way of the force, the birth of Anakin??

Started by Sadako of Girth2 pages

He may have taught Sidious the secret of old age, but then I doubt that he'd have taught Anakin the trick and then made himself unneccesary to Anakin any further so Anakin could kill him... And equally, I doubt that he is Anakin's father....
Plus...why would Palps create someone who would kill him ultimately...
Palps was pretty clued on the prophecies apparently....

Or he was told to lie, bare faced....
oh...wait....

Did nobody read my post?

Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Rolling Stone: Now there's a hint in the movie that there was a Sith lord who had the power to create life. But it's left unsaid: Is Anakin a product of a super-Sith who influenced the midichlorians to create him, or is he simply created by the midichlorians to bring forth a prophecy, or was he created by the Force through the midichlorians?

Lucas: It's left up to the audience to decide. How he was born ulitmately has no relationship to how he dies, because in the end, the prophecy is true: Balance comes back to the Force.

THERE IS NO ANSWER! WE ARE ALL RIGHT!

Its an interesting thing to do, intentionally putting something uncertain like that.

This movie is full of ambiguity. I think it's a smart move.

darth plagus taught sideous to manipulate midichlorians to create life itself, then sid said, 'tar, very much' and sabred him in his sleep.

found someone of insignificance on a planet were no one would care, and manipulated the force to create life in her...

he's not anikans biological father in the most direct route, but he totally made him. it's all brought forth in an impressivley subtle way, but all the evidence is there...

having the emporer announce it our-right would have been way to similar to vader telling luke in ESB, and that kind of repetition was too much for even george 'hand severing' lucas.

just think about that the next time you watch it... and i'm sure you'll agree...

At first I sold this off as bullshit, but as I rewatch the scene the way he says the word life and the look on his face, it appears that he may have done it.

Just the emphasis and expressions sell it.

Look away Dodo. 😛

http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QJ8L3ZQGIMVH15C70KG7SUK4R

The way he delivers that line is so devilish that you cant help but to atleast consider it.

I couldn't resist downloading that...

That scene and Ian's performance are my favourite things about the film!

I agree with Bar-en-Danwedh. It had to be just implied... very subtley. Otherwise it woulda just been a rip off of Empire's "I am your father."

It almost seems like when he says the word life that he nods to Anakin.

Originally posted by astrofan428
It almost seems like when he says the word life that he nods to Anakin.

He does - but he was talking about D. Plagueus at the time.

With regard to Sidious obviously being a liar, I think it would be foolish to assume that every word he utters is a lie... the BEST lies are 90% true!

or completely true.

Recall that when Dooku was trying to talk Obi-Wan into joining the "other" side, he told Obi that the Jedi had been blinded by the dark side, the senate was under the control of the dark lord of the Sith, and the trade fed had worked for the dark lord until he'd screwed them over. All of that was TRUE - the deception was in what he DIDN'T say. He made it sound like he was working against the Sith, using statements that were actually true.

It seems likely that D. Sidious would use the same "deception by truth" technique. According to his story, D. Plagueus taught his apprentice everything he knew... but IMO, that doesn't mean that the apprentice became equally powerful - it's possible that the force wasn't as strong with him, so he couldn't make the knowledge work for him. Notice that D. Sidious was quite willing to fight Mace Windu and the other Jedis, and of course Yoda - it's not like he was afraid of a real fight. But in the story, the apprentice kills D. Plagueus in his sleep. To me, this suggests that even after learning all his master knew, the apprentice was still not as powerful. Perhaps this was why, once he bacame the master, he needed a powerful young apprentice.

[QUOTE=3973783]Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
[B]Did nobody read my post?

Yes.....nobody read your post.

😛

Its possible.

Originally posted by astrofan428
Look away Dodo. 😛

http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QJ8L3ZQGIMVH15C70KG7SUK4R

The way he delivers that line is so devilish that you cant help but to atleast consider it.

Is this link without audio or am I just missing the codec?