Darth vader vs Darth traya(kreia)

Gladly,

Kreia, sure she's powerful with the force but so is Vader. So the're even with the force but Vader is better with hard hits with the saber. Kreia would try to block all his hits but then she'd figure that with just blocking is gonna get her no where in the battle, so she does some agility moves around Vader. All Vader has to do is turn to the place she's attacking him, he doesent even need to walk just turn and keep hitting her hard. Kreia will eventually get tired and then thats when Vader strikes. So speed doesent exactly count in this match.

Okay....

Vader had a great control of the force granted, but nothing near Kreia... Very few could have reached that level and I very much doubt Vader had it, if he did he never showed it. When fighting Luke he fell down easily, and although I do believe he did not want to kill him if he was as powerful as Kreia was in the force he would have never fallen down in the first place. He would have taken out the Empire with a duel of force alone.

About her being outclassed in a lightsaber duel, I doubt it. Power in your blows doesn't matter all that much in the Star Wars universe, because the lightsabers weigh almost nothing.

Now then there is the fact that she could just make 3 others fly and attack herself... Have fun blockinf four sabers Vader

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
This place is being overrun by newbs. Kreia kills 3 powerful Jedi masters at the same time with one use of the Force. Even as Anakin, he DID NOT kill thousands of Jedi. He didn't even kill hundreds. He killed those younglings and that's about it. Then he lost most of his power anyway when he burned up.

the temple doens´t ahve only younglings he did killed jedis in there, it simply didn´t show up in the movie. Actually in a deleted scene you can see in the hologram anakin fighting to jedis, ill have to post the image.

Anakin in episode 3 is not that powerfull, i think at full potential he is the most powerfull jedi/sith ever, but in ep 3 he´s not on yoda/sidious level.

Originally posted by Fishy
Okay....

Vader had a great control of the force granted, but nothing near Kreia... Very few could have reached that level and I very much doubt Vader had it, if he did he never showed it. When fighting Luke he fell down easily, and although I do believe he did not want to kill him if he was as powerful as Kreia was in the force he would have never fallen down in the first place. He would have taken out the Empire with a duel of force alone.

About her being outclassed in a lightsaber duel, I doubt it. Power in your blows doesn't matter all that much in the Star Wars universe, because the lightsabers weigh almost nothing.

Now then there is the fact that she could just make 3 others fly and attack herself... Have fun blockinf four sabers Vader

i think vader owns luke, he didn´t killed hi,m in ep 5 and 6 because its his son, and in the end of ep 6 he´s already in conflict, his good side battling his dark side, luke won that fight but he´s not in vader leagues, not to me.

The question here is how powerful vader is? when i first saw star wars i tough vader was the most powerfull ever, now lucas said that because he´s half machine he lost many midiclorians so he´s weaker then sidious, personally i think this is a huge peace of crap, i prefer to think that the force is what obi wan and yoda say in ep 4 and 5, and in this case vader in the use of the force should be able to reach his full potential, now in physic abilities no since hes more machine then man, and his old.

Well yeah, I just always assumed he wouldn't attack sidious because lighting would fry him, like we have seen in ROTJ...

Kreia can shoot lighting... So Vader is dead anyways

most of the jedis don´t use the ligthing and that doesn´t mean they would loose to some sith who do. anakin didn´t used the lighting and he beat dooku.

by the way, doesn´t vader uses lighting in the comics

Originally posted by Bobafetty
Gladly,

Kreia, sure she's powerful with the force but so is Vader. So the're even with the force but Vader is better with hard hits with the saber. Kreia would try to block all his hits but then she'd figure that with just blocking is gonna get her no where in the battle, so she does some agility moves around Vader. All Vader has to do is turn to the place she's attacking him, he doesent even need to walk just turn and keep hitting her hard. Kreia will eventually get tired and then thats when Vader strikes. So speed doesent exactly count in this match.

Yes Vader has stronger blows which would help but Kreia wouldn't need a lightsaber. Vader is not nearly as powerful with the Force as Kreia is. Kreia kills 3 powerful Council level Jedi masters at the same time with one use of the Force. If Vader could do that he would've done it to Luke except not kill him or he would've just done it to the Emperor. Kreia wins big time.

I guess