Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Well to my knowledge, Revan got closer than any other Sith to conquering the galaxy. The Jedi do say that the Sith were all but invincible with only Bastila's battle meditation keeping them from total triumph. I suppose that doesn't actually count but if Lord Revan goes dark then he basically conquered the galaxy because the Republic fleet is decimated, there are less than 100 Jedi total, the Sith Empire has a huge and limitless army, and Lord Revan is even stronger than his previous reign and with a more useful apprentice.
That is your logical flaw. You take "to your knowledge" as the law.
GL was most likely referring to one particular point in time when the Sith HAD ruled the galaxy. This could be any number of time periods involving any number of individuals, many of which may not be explored in the EU.
All this shows is that the SITH had at one time ruled the galaxy, it does not mean we KNOW of who did it.
To say that because you know Revan came close, does not show he was the one being referred to.
What you KNOW is very limited in respect to the history of the Star Wars Universe, do not try to pass it as law.
Originally posted by Holifyre
It depends on one's opinion what dark and light is.. or good and evil... It is simply religion.. I don't mean to offend anyone on what I will say, just an example. Afganastan took down America's Twin Towers and America is now at way with Afganastan. America hates them.. understandable. But the question remains... Why did Afganastan do that in the first place? Basically saying... No one knows what good and evil is.. Everyone has their own thoughts on what is truly good and what is truly bad.. I do apoligize for bring up the topic of America.
Well, I think we can agree that killing innocent people is a evil thing.
Originally posted by Illustrious
That is your logical flaw. You take "to your knowledge" as the law.GL was most likely referring to one particular point in time when the Sith HAD ruled the galaxy. This could be any number of time periods involving any number of individuals, many of which may not be explored in the EU.
All this shows is that the SITH had at one time ruled the galaxy, it does not mean we KNOW of who did it.
To say that because you know Revan came close, does not show he was the one being referred to.
What you KNOW is very limited in respect to the history of the Star Wars Universe, do not try to pass it as law.
No, don't ever pretend to know what I think. I don't think my knowledge is law, I threw that in there to show that Revan got closer than anyone else that I KNOW OF, NOT NECESSARILY EVERYONE ELSE. I NEVER said he was referring to Revan, I said it was possible and totally speculation.
This whole topic is a question because I DON'T KNOW! And what I KNOW is not as limited as you think, you obviously have a very inflated view of yourself fool, and don't ever act like I'm trying to say my knowledge is law when I'm blatantly saying it's not. It just makes you look stupid and an ass.
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
No, don't ever pretend to know what I think. I don't think my knowledge is law, I threw that in there to show that Revan got closer than anyone else that I KNOW OF, NOT NECESSARILY EVERYONE ELSE. I NEVER said he was referring to Revan, I said it was possible and totally speculation.This whole topic is a question because I DON'T KNOW! And what I KNOW is not as limited as you think, you obviously have a very inflated view of yourself fool, and don't ever act like I'm trying to say my knowledge is law when I'm blatantly saying it's not. It just makes you look stupid and an ass.
Lucas never plays Star Wars games so how would he know about Revan. Maybe he just said that to give them something to explore further.
Here you are again, spouting off nonsense. Zodiac, you are like a shit that won't flush, I swear.
Lucas may be lazy, but he has a dim view of Eu, if anything. Hell, he used Darth Bane, Aayla Secura, and the double bladed lightsaber in his movies.... That shows you he pays attention better than I do. I didn't know about any of those before I came to this forum.
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
No, don't ever pretend to know what I think. I don't think my knowledge is law, I threw that in there to show that Revan got closer than anyone else that I KNOW OF, NOT NECESSARILY EVERYONE ELSE. I NEVER said he was referring to Revan, I said it was possible and totally speculation.This whole topic is a question because I DON'T KNOW! And what I KNOW is not as limited as you think, you obviously have a very inflated view of yourself fool, and don't ever act like I'm trying to say my knowledge is law when I'm blatantly saying it's not. It just makes you look stupid and an ass.
Then why did you even mention Revan? During KotOR or KotOR II, he failed to conquer the galaxy. So is Palpatine referencing him? Obviously not.
Use your head, why did you mention his name then if he DID NOT rule the galaxy? Just so you can peddle your favorite character some more? Sprinkle him in your fanboy sauce?
Maybe you should use your head. As far as we know, Revan DIDN'T conquer the galaxy, he DIDN'T rule it, so is Palps referencing him when he says "once more the Sith shall rule the galaxy?"
Clearly you have issues, especially considering you get so defensive so fast when someone questions your viewpoint.
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Well to my knowledge, Revan got closer than any other Sith to conquering the galaxy. The Jedi do say that the Sith were all but invincible with only Bastila's battle meditation keeping them from total triumph. I suppose that doesn't actually count but if Lord Revan goes dark then he basically conquered the galaxy because the Republic fleet is decimated, there are less than 100 Jedi total, the Sith Empire has a huge and limitless army, and Lord Revan is even stronger than his previous reign and with a more useful apprentice.
Maybe you should read what people post before you go and bash them, Illustrious. He clearl states that Revan doesn't count, BUT if you play the game to the dark side ending, Revan pretty much has the galaxy under his control. We all know he's biased towards Revan sometimes, and sure maybe he was "sprinkling Revan in his fanboy sauce", but he clearly states that Revan doesn't really count. You should actually try and respond to the thread instead of bashing people. Besides Emperor Revan is very far from a Revan fanboy, true Revan is his favorite character and many times he is biased towards him, but at least he goes by things Revan has done, and doesn't just make up stuff about Revan like a lot of noobs do. Give him some respect and actually reply to the thread.
Originally posted by Human Vader
Maybe you should read what people post before you go and bash them, Illustrious. He clearl states that Revan doesn't count, BUT if you play the game to the dark side ending, Revan pretty much has the galaxy under his control. We all know he's biased towards Revan sometimes, and sure maybe he was "sprinkling Revan in his fanboy sauce", but he clearly states that Revan doesn't really count. You should actually try and respond to the thread instead of bashing people. Besides Emperor Revan is very far from a Revan fanboy, true Revan is his favorite character and many times he is biased towards him, but at least he goes by things Revan has done, and doesn't just make up stuff about Revan like a lot of noobs do. Give him some respect and actually reply to the thread.
My point is that he has no reason to even mention the name.
Clearly this entire thread is to either promote his entire fetish with Revan, or to peddle the fact that he believed Revan is the best.
It would be like me saying:
"Exar was the best, he walked in to the senate, his spirit owned luke, lolololololol, he took control of the massassi race, omg he is so powerful. But wait, he doesn't count."
Mentioning Exar then, would be redundant, he didn't take over the universe any more than Revan did; THERE IS NO PURPOSE TO MENTION HIM; just like there is no purpose to mention Revan, it's offtopic and unnecessary.
Do you want me to spout off names next of everyone that came remotely close?
To our knowledge, we don't know who Sidious is referring to, as we don't know of a Sith figure that had ruled the galaxy. To say anything else at this certain moment of time would be pointless. To create a thread and then peddle your favorite character's name is fanboyism.
I could make 20 threads about Exar, and make a thinly veiled attempt at provoking thought to cover up the fact that it's sheer fanboyism, but that doesn't change the fact: it's fanboyism, simple as that.
I've been trying to participate in debates with a "logical manner", but I would say the majority of the people here have no idea what the first thing is to an actual debate. A debate is not your blatant opinion. You don't go into a debate trying to peddle your goal, you go into a debate to make the best argument possible; not show off your love for a certain character.
Illustrious, if this thread so bothers you, do us all a big favor, piss off, and don't return. No one is forcing you to read this, and your inputis not appreciated by anyone, including the creator of the thread. He opened it for discussion and put something on the table. You, on the other hand, have just been an unreasonable ass who overcritiques every little thing.
Special thanks to Darth_Janus, Great Vengeance, and my apprentice: Human Vader. You guys rule.
Illustrious: Like they said, did you even bother to read the first post? I asked WHO he was referring to. I don't know and what makes you think I do? Next, like Human Vader said, I am slightly biased towards Revan at times but I never exaggerate anything he's done, lie, etc. and this thread was clearly (or so I thought) not meant to promote Revan or his accomplishments in any way. Otherwise I would've started spouting off overly biased opinions left and right saying Revan is a god or something.
Revan had the galaxy at it's knees. He was the dark lord, had an apprentice with battle meditation, the Star Forge to create an endless fleet, less than a hundred Jedi left to compete with, and a decimated Republic fleet to try and stop him. That's closer than any other Sith (besides Palps obviously) to controlling the galaxy, that's why I threw his name out WITH A QUESTION MARK.
Now why don't you stop trying to insult people and if you're gonna post, answer the original question.