Darth Vader vs. Naga Shadow or Tulak Hord (your pick)

Started by Star Wars Logic3 pages

Yeah Tulak Hord broke through the Jedi's frontline alone, at the battle Yn. Now he's the greatest lightsaber master unquestionably👇.

Except for the other information that indicates that he'd have no opportunity to fight the Jedi or wield a lightsaber.

The sources are flat-out contradictory. Which makes it rather hard to say 'unquestionably'- we've got two accounts which both can't be true.

It doesn't matter. Tulak Hord broke through a Jedi frontline, those Jedi all had Lightsabers too, and yet they were all slaughtered by a single Tulak Hord, Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha, the Jedi order are now a living hypocritical joke.

He takes Naga Sadow, idk about Tulak Hord.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He takes Naga Sadow, idk about Tulak Hord.
No Darth Vader would fall before Naga Sadow, due to 2 Reasons. Reason 1 is Naga Sadow destroys Planet sized Stars with a mere thoughts. Reason 2 is Naga Sadow's poison blade, if Vader gets cut by Sadow's poison blade in his current condition, that spells the end for our little anakin 👇.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
No Darth Vader would fall before Naga Sadow, due to 2 Reasons. Reason 1 is Naga Sadow destroys Planet sized Stars with a mere thoughts.

... with a power-boosting ship and intense concentration. Also, a mere apprentice who wasn't near as powerful was still able to do the same thing with the ship later on.

Reason 2 is Naga Sadow's poison blade, if Vader gets cut by Sadow's poison blade in his current condition, that spells the end for our little anakin 👇.

... Vader is a cyborg. In armor. Poison is an incredibly pointless thing to try on him. Also, single lightsaber cuts are deadly anyway, so I find poison blades sorta pointless for Jedi and Sith even normally.

Originally posted by Q99
... with a power-boosting ship and intense concentration. Also, a mere apprentice who wasn't near as powerful was still able to do the same thing with the ship later on.

... Vader is a cyborg. In armor. Poison is an incredibly pointless thing to try on him. Also, single lightsaber cuts are deadly anyway, so I find poison blades sorta pointless for Jedi and Sith even normally.

Nope that was just how powerful Naga Sadow was. And the Poison thats on Sadow's poison blade wasn't literal poison, the poison that was on his blade the taint of his his spirit, (Which is not curable by most means) and once someone's hit Sadow's poison blade, they'll die from spiritual poisoning, and body erosion. The Anakin skywalker that was currently rotting away in that armor ,can't take a single hit from Naga Sadow's blade without dying👇.

If you want to talk about power boosters, Darth Vitiate is the biggest one. since he couldn't achieve the height of that power without manipulating, then absorbing 8,000 Sith lords, he's a coward who's afraid of 2 things. Marka Ragnos, and Death.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Nope that was just how powerful Naga Sadow was. And the Poison thats on Sadow's poison blade wasn't literal poison, the poison that was on his blade the taint of his his spirit, (Which is not curable by most means) and once someone's hit Sadow's poison blade, they'll die from spiritual poisoning, and body erosion. The Anakin skywalker that was currently rotting away in that armor ,can't take a single hit from Naga Sadow's blade without dying👇.

If you want to talk about power boosters, Darth Vitiate is the biggest one. since he couldn't achieve the height of that power without manipulating, then absorbing 8,000 Sith lords, he's a coward who's afraid of 2 things. Marka Ragnos, and Death.

No, his power was infinitely boosted. He alone could not destroy stars. Also, I seem to recall that Starkiller slashed Vader with his lightsaber, but couldn't get past his armor most of his strikes. Meaning that a poison blade would have 0 effect on Vader, since it has less cutting power and it would be even harder to get through the armor without some serious hacking. And Vader's skills with a blade wouldn't let Naga Sadow get that far.

Truly, it would be a cool fight, but Vader's TK is evidently quite superior to Sadow's, and in a combat battle, that's the main hard hitter of what matters. And in swordplay, I don't see Sadow overcoming Vader, and even if he could, he'd still have to hack away to get through Vader's armor and use the effects of his little poison sword.

Vader takes him.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
No, his power was infinitely boosted. He alone could not destroy stars. Also, I seem to recall that Starkiller slashed Vader with his lightsaber, but couldn't get past his armor most of his strikes. Meaning that a poison blade would have 0 effect on Vader, since it has less cutting power and it would be even harder to get through the armor without some serious hacking. And Vader's skills with a blade wouldn't let Naga Sadow get that far.

Truly, it would be a cool fight, but Vader's TK is evidently quite superior to Sadow's, and in a combat battle, that's the main hard hitter of what matters. And in swordplay, I don't see Sadow overcoming Vader, and even if he could, he'd still have to hack away to get through Vader's armor and use the effects of his little poison sword.

Vader takes him.

No, Naga Sadow's poison blade had the incurable taint, of his spirit on it, even more so Naga's sword was imbued with the power of the force, so his sword was not only very lethal, but also had just as much cutting power as a lightsaber does, since his sword can defend against lightsabers instead of being cut into pieces.

Sadow would kill Vader with one swipe of his sword.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Nope that was just how powerful Naga Sadow was.

Aleema Keto does it too, and she does it the same way- with Naga's ship.

And Aleema Keto is definitely no super badass.

Originally posted by Q99
Aleema Keto does it too, and she does it the same way- with Naga's ship.

And Aleema Keto is definitely no super badass.

Still Vader will die by Sadow's blade 🙂.

juat because naga uses a sith sword in no way means it has the same cutting power of a lightsaber.....

a sith sword can' just cut through blast doors like a lightsaber can.....it's just lightsaber resistant. ad the sword can't hold the taint of his spirit in it with him still being alive......

so far your arguments are coming off as just fanboyism with no reguard to disproving the counterpoints to your arguments so i'm assuming most people don't take your opinion into account....

Originally posted by Intregus
juat because naga uses a sith sword in no way means it has the same cutting power of a lightsaber.....

a sith sword can' just cut through blast doors like a lightsaber can.....it's just lightsaber resistant. ad the sword can't hold the taint of his spirit in it with him still being alive......

so far your arguments are coming off as just fanboyism with no regard to disproving the counterpoints to your arguments so i'm assuming most people don't take your opinion into account....

If you read the description on his sword, it specifically said Naga Sadow's poison blade was covered in the taint of his spirit. Some people asked Why is his spirit tainted to that degree. Well the answer is, he used a large degree of Sith Sorcery. Its equivalent to the after effects of Black Magic. Think the next time you speak to me, don't be a smart alec 🙂.

ya it stated that AFTER he was dead.....because his spirit clung to the sword.

ye again though you don't acknowledge the other points made in a post you're just moving past as if they don't need to be refuted....but they do. Next time maybe you should actually debate the topic vs asserting your opinion as fact.

I'm not trying to be offensive but with comments like "think the next time you speak to me" just comes off as jackassery when I'm trying to get you to debate the points presented to you

Originally posted by Q99
... Vader is a cyborg. In armor. Poison is an incredibly pointless thing to try on him. Also, single lightsaber cuts are deadly anyway, so I find poison blades sorta pointless for Jedi and Sith even normally.

Yeah because getting 3 limbs cut off and set on fire is nothing compared to poison!

Originally posted by Intregus
ya it stated that AFTER he was dead.....because his spirit clung to the sword.

ye again though you don't acknowledge the other points made in a post you're just moving past as if they don't need to be refuted....but they do. Next time maybe you should actually debate the topic vs asserting your opinion as fact.

I'm not trying to be offensive but with comments like "think the next time you speak to me" just comes off as jackassery when I'm trying to get you to debate the points presented to you

Naga Sadow's spirit NEVER clug on to his blade. Naga Sadow's spirit was on Yavin IV when he died, and when he spiritually manifested. Naga Sadow's spirit was sealed by Darth Vitiate's Forces, to prevent Sadow from interfering with the emperor's plans.

It was specifically said in Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic, that the Vile taint of Naga Sadow's spirit covered the metal of his blade.

Are you even familiar with the after effects differentiation between Sith Sorcery and Black Magic? if not then cease with your opinions.

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I probably should have bumped this while also giving my opinion.

Naga Sadow's esoteric powers is gonna give Vader a hard time if he fights him, as well as his showing of moving and exploding stars, means he has amazing TK, though he had to meditate for a few minutes to do that. However, I do think Vader wins. Despite all the Ancient Sith being great duelists, Sadow is lacking here.

Tulak Hord should win, he's superior in sabers, undoubtedly. He has comparable TK, or TK thats strong enough to the point that there's no way he's getting ragdolled.

Its not a 10/10 win in sabers for Hord though, 8/10 at best.

Vader wins 10/10 in force though.

I'm leaning either way.

I think the first part is okay, but I doubt that Vader would have much problems with Sadows esoteric powers.

Tulak Hord should win, he's superior in sabers, undoubtedly. Its not a 10/10 win in sabers for Hord though, 8/10 at best. I'm leaning either way.

How is he superior in sabers? I can think of two reasons:
1. Him winning against an army of Jedi. But he had likely on his own side. And you lowball the Exile, who has done the same feat on a darkside nexus :/
2. Kreia and Avellone. Kreia has never met the ancients, so she can only hype them, on assumptions.
While Avellone "confirms" that her statements are true, we don´t know if his statement is true. Not all author statements are true- so has Tom Veitch(iirc) said, that Sidious couldn´t controll his force storms and that Exar Kun is the strongest Sith-both of which is obviously false.
Vader wins 10/10 in force though.
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