Judgement day

it is one of the lost books of the bible.

Originally posted by cking
it is one of the lost books of the bible.

There are over 100 different books that weren't included....Most had Jesus as a person, not a Messiah...In fact he wasn't a Messiah until around 300 AD when it was determinated at a council..Nicea, or trent, i think

this gives a very good detail of what hell looks like from Enoch. back in the early church days they left out and the book of jubilee for some reason.

maybe they were scared of what hell looked like and so they left it out.

Enoch said he was in the spirit when he saw these things.

Originally posted by cking
maybe they were scared of what hell looked like and so they left it out.

There's not a hell...in the OT it was always called the grave...in the NT, Gehenna was a local location there....Even today the Jews don't believe in a hell, and they know the OT better than anyone.

what about the rich man and Lazarus. explain that. they don't have to back then if they did what was right at first they would never think of hell again. the new testament is a fulfilment of the old and it gives alot more detail of what things are like than the old.

Originally posted by cking
what about the rich man and Lazarus. explain that. they don't have to back then if they did what was right at first they would never think of hell again. the new testament is a fulfilment of the old and it gives alot more detail of what things are like than the old.

The rich man and lazarus was a story illustration...Do you really think hell is like that????

the gospels I think said that Satan was in a pit like in a cone of a volcano and it was underground. I don't know for sure, I just saw it off the passion of the Christ. the bible cannont be changed because it is the breath of god and if anyone changes it they will be in deep trouble.

Jesus was giving a good demonstration of what it really looked like. but that if only just a little of what it would look like. Jesus wouldn't lie about this.

many people try to contradict the bible, simply because they don't believe it and they want it the way they want it.

Originally posted by cking
the gospels I think said that Satan was in a pit like in a cone of a volcano and it was underground. .

A cone???? No...tell me you don't believe this....A cone underground somewhere? If anything, if it was real it would be on another planet.

Besides answer this...If god creates a new heaven and a new earth, AND ALL OLD THINGS PASS AWAY..how could there be a punishing...that would be an old thing left over...

no, it was off of the passion of the Christ, but I didn't see it in the bible, so why did Mel Gibson put in the movie then? they shouldn't be doing that.

sin and death will never exist anymore, for it says in revelations.

Originally posted by cking
no, it was off of the passion of the Christ, but I didn't see it in the bible, so why did Mel Gibson put in the movie then? they shouldn't be doing that.

I heard he took it from some woman writer...maybe some catholic literature.

So, where do you think it is...

it would be like the garden all over again without the sin this time.

Mel Gibson is a catholic, maybe he wanted it to more interesting. It showed Satan screaming after Jesus died. maybe it is just Hollywood.

Originally posted by cking
it would be like the garden all over again without the sin this time.

No, I mean where is this hell at?

it doesn't exist anymore. Satan will not exist. read in revelations in chapter 20. I have read some articles about hades and they said it is suppose to be like the secondary hell to the lake of fire. and it says hades will give up its dead. death and hades were thrown in the lake of fire. that is the second death. anyone who's name wasn't found in the book of life was thrown in there. and read the next chapter about the new creation. hades was the prison of the watchers and they will await judgement of the great white throne.

Originally posted by debbiejo
There's not a hell...in the OT it was always called the grave...in the NT, Gehenna was a local location there....Even today the Jews don't believe in a hell, and they know the OT better than anyone.