The Goths I know (not all bad, some have a kind of purity of purpose and aren't into all the tosh of the stylised, popularised ones) don't believe in the Devil.
But then since when have being "Gothic" been a religious thing? It is, or was, unless it's changed, a social sub culture, like all those other stereotypical ones out there. It's a lifestyle. Goths can, and do worship nothing (your typical Atheistic or nihilistic ones), God (not really that common), New Age or Pagan deities (probably one of the larger sub, sub culture types), Hindu Gods (a interesting person, let me tell you, thankfully dropped the Goth thing after High School), there are ones who worship "the Darkness" and not always as a god like thing, but rather as an abstract concept and so on. And yes, there probably are those who worship the Devil, but then there are non-Goths who do that, it is not a Gothic exclusive thing.
Some history - the designation "Gothic" as in Gothic architecture, Gothic literature etc was originally a derogatory term coined during the Renaissance. This was because during that period the Roman Empire was viewed as the "Golden Age" of civilisation, and the Goths were (mostly unfairly) blamed for its destruction. And what followed the Roman empire was viewed, by many Renaissance scholars, as base, worthless and the work of the Barbarian "Goths". So negative connotations all round, but fundamentally flawed and elitist. Anyway this doesn't really have anything to do with the Gothic Subculture.
They don´t do black magic, they don´t even know what it is. One day I heard some of them talking about black magic, and they didn´t knew a thing about it. They seemed to me, like most christians talking about God. Someone told them that magic is something evil and has to to with the devil, and they liked it because, others don´t like it. You know.. they don´t have a philosophy they are just angered at something. If not all, at least those I knew.
Originally posted by debbiejoThey believe in an angel called ha satan, he is supposed to be doing god's will. He is the tempter and it's mans cchoice which way he's going to go. They think therre is a differant way for gentiles to be saved and god works with differant people in differant ways.
People practicing satanism doesn't make him real...Satan/devil was created in 150 AD by Justin Martyr. He added al the torment thing...The Jews being God original people DO NOT BELIEVE IN A SATAN...That idea came from paganism.
Originally posted by JacopeXI don't thinnk it has any thinng to do witth religion and they probably wear makeup to make themselves look like they want to look. People think tthey're so weird they must bbe ddevil worshipers.
I would like to say that gothic religion is garbage and stupid. I mean, you are wearing make up for something you belive in. Darkness. Its a creepy religion.
lol I was looking for a good place to get cloths using google (other than Hot Topic) nd I found this thread, so I decided to register to the forum so as to reply to it lol So yeah, I'm goth I guess, nd no I don't worship Satan or practice witchcraft, thou I do know ppl who are into wicca nd stuff, I don't cut my self either. I'm goth because I like to dress in black, listen to hardcore rock like Tool, Corn, nd Disturbed, I watch hoarer movies nd laugh, I do research into Satan even thou I don't worship it, I also find witchcraft interesting, I even go deeper into research like back to ancient Egyptian coulters and stuff, I watch Hellsing and think its the greatest thing made by human hands, also I'm a true agnostic. All in all I'm this way because of depression issues and stuff I guess, because this stuff is more interesting than God or Atheism and it distracts me from my life. I mean If yer Christian right you know how depressing it can be to wory bout if yer sinning nd stuff right? Well if u don't go that rout than yer golden. XD
I mean Who's cooler, Sephiroth or Cloud? In fact I think FFVII is like a representation of the worlds view of Mainstream vs Goths, Cloud is "Mainstream Culture" and Sephiroth is "Goth Culture" or at least one viewpoint on goth culture. and if u just read all that bout FFVII being a statement on culture than u wasted 2 secs of yer life lmfao. Vampires are cool, everyone hates me, Im to smart to kill my self, or is it Im to stupid not to? 🙁