SW not being Cheese, just loyal to the old 30s serial tradition.

When you look closely to some scenes of ROTS you realise that these are just wrote with the same kind of scrip-writing that was used for the old sci-fi serials of the Thirties (Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, etc).

When some people say that this line is to cheese or that Anakin conversion is to fast they forget that this is, after all, a style 30s serial.
the main difference between the original serial and SW are:

1)SW is way to longer.

2)SW cost a lot more money.

The Padme "love" lines in ROTS (an the other movies) are typical of a 30s romance (at least a serial kind of romance). Of course they may sound cheese today, but they represent an old kind of filmmaking.

And for Palpy, well he is a typical serial bad-guy. Ultra Evil and the like, he´s like Ming on crack. And his lines! "NO, NO, NO, YOU WILL DIE!!!" Typical serial baddie.

"That Bussines in Cato Neimodia, Doesn´t count". All of that scene is also typical serial style. Just think about it.

Also check this Lucas interview

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/7330268/starwars?pageid=rs.Story&pageregion=blob

made in the 70's in which George says that some of Lukes lines "...are really corny" and that is because "corny" is part of the serial style.

hope it might interest you people.

The writing is still cheesy... but yeah, it's intentional.

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If the bad dialogue is intentional, why is there either good dialogue or bad? I believe the elaboration of emotion is intentional, that was the style of the 30's series, but not the bad script.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
If the bad dialogue is intentional, why is there either good dialogue or bad? I believe the elaboration of emotion is intentional, that was the style of the 30's series, but not the bad script.

Well at the begining of SW Lucas was really worried that the bad lines would ruin the movies for the audience.

This lines are Bad today, but were normal in the old serials.

I think he was trying to be faithfull for a kind on cinema tha he liked as a child, even if it had it´s idiotic moments

I just dont buy that, because many of the hokey lines come during or after significant momments.

Come on... he can't really think that some of the lines he writes are actually good. They're stylised. Surely he knows they sound cheesy... otherwise I think he needs some serious help...

Yes you´re partially right.

He was more carefull in the OT.

Now perhaps Lucas is senile, or rusty, or both.

Really this cheese lines never bothered me that much, I allways have in mind that this is just a thirties serial

Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Come on... he can't really think that some of the lines he writes are actually good. They're stylised. Surely he knows they sound cheesy... otherwise I think he needs some serious help...

things always look different on paper. If this were true, why is the oringal trilogy not plagued with blatant cheese?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
things always look different on paper. If this were true, why is the oringal trilogy not plagued with blatant cheese?

As I said now Lucas is Senile and Rusty.

He doesn´t work propperly anymore 😉

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
things always look different on paper. If this were true, why is the oringal trilogy not plagued with blatant cheese?

Probably due to the fact that he didn't screenwrite the OT. He's said time and time again that these films don't rely on dialogue. That you could watch them with just the visuals and music...

which is partially true. But if you're gonna have dialogue why not make it good? meh. It doesn't really bother me... I do think that the writing at least on the PT is very stylized.

Originally posted by Darth Zhin
He doesn´t work propperly anymore 😉

now that i'll buy. I'm not trying to make it look like i despise these movies for this. I am just annoyed because many times i was taken completely out of the movie due to feeble dialogue. I still like all the star wars movies.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
now that i'll buy. I'm not trying to make it look like i despise these movies for this. I am just annoyed because many times i was taken completely out of the movie due to feeble dialogue. I still like all the star wars movies.

Completly undertandable position (which I share completly in TPM!)

and yes, ESB & ROTJ were co-scripted with Kasdan and some other guy

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
things always look different on paper. If this were true, why is the oringal trilogy not plagued with blatant cheese?

Yep, SW was allways meant to be a little cheese.

Justa like those old fun serials! 😛

SW like Nachos they'r great but need some cheese and it's the old style.
Boys at my school old style all have hair to their elbows not cool 😛

A example of OT cheese:

From "A New Hope"

Darth Vader :"... now she´s my only link to find their secret base!!!"

Cheesy Imperial Officer: "She´ll die before she´ll tell you anything!!!!"

"Secret Base"..... C.H.E.E.S.Y. Inc. 😄

Originally posted by green dude
SW like Nachos they'r great but need some cheese and it's the old style.
Boys at my school old style all have hair to their elbows not cool 😛

You´re right.

without all that cheese SW will be a lot less fun!!! 😂

i never said the oringal had no cheese, but it diddnt come at key emotional turning points.

Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
The writing is still cheesy... but yeah, it's intentional.

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