Wolverine vs The Thing

Originally posted by jinzin
you're point being what?

this doesn't neglect the fact that he dodges lazers.. this only furthers my point that scotts blasting logan with eyebeams is a bad example.. thank you.

Isn't this supposed to be about Thing vs Wolverine? In my opinion, Thing should take him. He possesses a measure of superhuman speed and could knock Logan for a loop with a single blow. Sure, Wolverine could cut him, but a direct chest or head stab means Wolverine will be taking a nasty hit of his own.

Let's not forget that Ben Grimm is an exceptional wrestler. If locks down Logan's arms, the fight is over.

Thing 7/10.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Wolverine might be fast enough to dodge the [B]targeting abilities of some opponents, but to claim that he is faster than light is just plain ludicrous. As far as optic blasts are concerned, if Scott wants to hit Wolverine, he's going to hit him. He's that good.

Isn't this supposed to be about Thing vs Wolverine? In my opinion, Thing should take him. He possesses a measure of superhuman speed and could knock Logan for a loop with a single blow. Sure, Wolverine could cut him, but a direct chest or head stab means Wolverine will be taking a nasty hit of his own.

Let's not forget that Ben Grimm is an exceptional wrestler. If locks down Logan's arms, the fight is over.

Thing 7/10. [/B]

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Wolverine might be fast enough to dodge the [B]targeting abilities of some opponents, [/B]

opponents and computers alike...

Originally posted by Acrosurge
but to claim that he is faster than light is just plain ludicrous.

as it is when people claim spiderman's faster than lazer.. but no one said logan was faster than light and had you come to understand the arguments as they are instead of how you wish they were you would know that... the fact is wolverine's enhanced senses slow bullets down to slow motion in his mind.. and help him DODGE lazers.. it has nothing to do with being faster than light and no one claimed that it did.. 😕

so stop strawmanning...

Originally posted by Acrosurge
As far as optic blasts are concerned, if Scott wants to hit Wolverine, he's going to hit him. He's that good.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Isn't this supposed to be about Thing vs Wolverine? In my opinion, Thing should take him. He possesses a measure of superhuman speed

and yet wolverine's feats of speed outclass his by leaps and bounds.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
and could knock Logan for a loop with a single blow.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Sure, Wolverine could cut him, but a direct chest or head stab means Wolverine will be taking a nasty hit of his own.

sure I mean if we ignore all evidence and give thing the EXTREME benefit of the doubt.. fact is wolverine already stabbed thing.. all thing did back to him was cry in pain and fall to the floor.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Let's not forget that Ben Grimm is an exceptional wrestler. If locks down Logan's arms, the fight is over.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Thing 7/10.

Yeah cuz Wolverine has never been caught before ever! Wolverine pierced Thing with his entire body exuding force its not like he just walked up and slammed his claws into him.

Thing doesn't have to punch Wolverine to beat him just get a hold of him one time and bust a sasquatch move on him lol then rip his flesh from his bones.

Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah cuz Wolverine has never been caught before ever! Wolverine pierced Thing with his entire body exuding force its not like he just walked up and slammed his claws into him.

Thing doesn't have to punch Wolverine to beat him just get a hold of him one time and bust a sasquatch move on him lol then rip his flesh from his bones.

sasquatch was a SNEAK ATTACK... what part of that aren't you getting?

we can either go about this one of two ways.. you can accept the fact that thing's had two chances in comics and lost..

or we can go about this the theoretical way and logan isn't being caught and rendered helpless.. you're ignoring the point anyways... logans tearing thing up or stabbing him is TIMES more likely to happen then thing winning by catching logan and "wrestling" him into submission....

as for wolverine's claw strike, the guy was balancing on wires how much force could his body have exerted?

and when he tore things face up it was completely with the use of his arm alone..... I see arguments everywhere and none of them make any sense.. either your ignoring direct comparisons of logans, ignoring logan's feats, or ignoring what logan can do... that's all that's going on here..

Originally posted by jinzin
sasquatch was a SNEAK ATTACK... what part of that aren't you getting?

we can either go about this one of two ways.. you can accept the fact that thing's had two chances in comics and lost..

or we can go about this the theoretical way and logan isn't being caught and rendered helpless.. you're ignoring the point anyways... logans tearing thing up or stabbing him is TIMES more likely to happen then thing winning by catching logan and "wrestling" him into submission....

as for wolverine's claw strike, the guy was balancing on wires how much force could his body have exerted?

and when he tore things face up it was completely with the use of his arm alone..... I see arguments everywhere and none of them make any sense.. either your ignoring direct comparisons of logans, ignoring logan's feats, or ignoring what logan can do... that's all that's going on here..

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Touchy. Should we also ignore the occasion where Thing KO'd Logan by bopping him on the head?

i would, considering logan was stunned and half out of it. i should know, as i'm the one -- to jinzin's everlasting enmity! -- who posted that scan lo these many months ago!!

😄

I think Wolverine could use a respect thread.

Originally posted by Jesse7
I think Wolverine could use a respect thread.

Originally posted by jinzin
sasquatch was a SNEAK ATTACK... what part of that aren't you getting

It doesn't matter how it happens he was KO'd and actually sas man handled him twice! So take that with your super sense Wolverine who cannot be snuck up on!

Wolveirne TWO times has gotten the best of Thing and other big hitters have gotten the best of Wolverine.............all I am saying is that its not a one sided fight.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Touchy. Should we also ignore the occasion where Thing KO'd Logan by bopping him on the head?

it has nothing to do with me being touchy. it has to do with people just ignoring everything that makes logan look better then some bum who gets KOed by a deer, and ignoring it A LOT... it's one thing to call something a fluke but it's something else entirely to just keep ignoring consistant feats over and over no matter how many times these feats occur.... absolutely not.. should we ignore the fact that thing was admittedly lucky that wolverine was already messed up?

Originally posted by Soleran
It doesn't matter how it happens he was KO'd and actually sas man handled him twice! So take that with your super sense Wolverine who cannot be snuck up on!

Wolveirne TWO times has gotten the best of Thing and other big hitters have gotten the best of Wolverine.............all I am saying is that its not a one sided fight.

did I say wolverine couldn't be snuck up on? 😕

NOPE... I certainly did not... I said his senses slow bullets down and help him dodge lazers... not that he couldn't be snuck up on.. infact sabretooth's snuck up on him and ripped his throat out...

and it does matter how he was KOed... when wolverine's in a fighting frenzy he's much harder to KO then when he's in a calm state... your example is flawed plain and simple.

Originally posted by jinzin
did I say wolverine couldn't be snuck up on? 😕

NOPE... I certainly did not... I said his senses slow bullets down and help him dodge lazers... not that he couldn't be snuck up on.. infact sabretooth's snuck up on him and ripped his throat out...

and it does matter how he was KOed... when wolverine's in a fighting frenzy he's much harder to KO then when he's in a calm state... your example is flawed plain and simple.

Wait who says Wolverine is in a frenzy right now? He has to get to that point or are you saying he's always in a frenzy?

Originally posted by Jesse7
I think Wolverine could use a respect thread.

He already has one its called just about every book from Marvel 😉

Originally posted by badabing
Like this.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t361370.html

Alright change of topic.

Who can smoke the most cigars, Wolverine or Ben Grimm? 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Grimm22
He already has one its called just about every book from Marvel 😉

Spider-man and Batman make up 90% of the monthly title releases of their respective companies and Wolverine gets grilled for having too many appearances...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Spider-man and Batman make up 90% of the monthly title releases of their respective companies and Wolverine gets grilled for having too many appearances...

Its a good thing this thread wasn't about Batman or Spiderman then!

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Spider-man and Batman make up 90% of the monthly title releases of their respective companies and Wolverine gets grilled for having too many appearances...

Spidey is not in as many books as Wolverine.

But, yeah Batman is very much the Wolverine of DC.