Rachel downed Thor and Phoenix Namor was instantly on top of him. It WAS embarrassing imo but in the context of the story and the fact that Thor was instantly up, it doesn't mean much. Not to mention the Avenger comic shows her using some telepathy in conjunction with her attack when she hit Thor.
It'd be like saying Aquaman could beat Superman because of this:
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusWhat does that even show? Thor never even got hit by Namor and Thor was actually shown downed by the same attack before he got up. Its from another writer anyway, distortions like that always happen.
Lol? What? Here's the entire encounter, including some more of Thor's fight with Phoenix Namor:
Again, all she did was knock him down for LITERALLY a single panel. She knocked him off his feet. For maybe a FEW seconds.Under Bendis, Under Aaron he was downed and unable to defend himself.
At best she had him a disadvantage. Saying she had him ALL but beat, especially when he goes on to take on a Trans Tier character is RIDICULOUS.Hahaha, oh god. You're so desperate its not even funny. Its from ANOTHER ****ING WRITER. Go see Infinity Gauntlet/War/Crusade series and its tie ins to see how different details can be.
Yes he was. They obviously had an extended -and competitive- battle off-panel. Seeing as how Thor was fighting Namor with the power of the Phoenix before and after, it's definitely something worth noting. He even seemed to have gotten the edge on Namor there as ridiculous as that would be.
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You can't be serious here. Its one thing to be in denial, but this is ****ing ridiculous.
Yes, she got in a good hit. But this thread is about mutants who have BEATEN Thor, not those who managed to take him off his feet for maybe a few seconds at best.Nope. Learn to read.
And you said Thor was "all but finished". Which is RIDICULOUS and blatantly untrue.So much butthurt.
Yes there was. Look again:You're becoming carter level now. Read the words again and see how ridiculous you sound. Thor bounced her TP bolt right back at her, its written in black and white.He BOUNCED her telepathic bolt right back at her. But he used a blast from Mjolnir. He didn't use energy absorption.
Yes, Cho beat Thor but he had prep.Good boy, what else should he have done? Duke it out with Thor?
😐You are digging a deeper hole for yourself with every post. Bravo.Yes, I do. Whenever a character beats another with prep, particularly the geniuses, you ARE suppose to make a note of it as it is hugely important in regards to context.
Smh.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Rachel downed Thor and Phoenix Namor was instantly on top of him. It WAS embarrassing imo but in the context of the story and the fact that Thor was instantly up, it doesn't mean much. Not to mention the Avenger comic shows her using some telepathy in conjunction with her attack when she hit Thor.It'd be like saying Aquaman could beat Superman because of this:
Hank Pym stunned Thor with a kick at his normal size and took him out of the fight. Face it, Thor sucks.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What does that even show? Thor never even got hit by Namor and Thor was actually shown downed by the same attack before he got up. Its from another writer anyway, distortions like that always happen.
Again, I admit that Rachel knocked Thor down.
That was never in contention. She knocked him down. She took him off his feet.
But she didn't defeat him, not even close. Nor was he "all but finished" like you claimed. Which is what this thread is about.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Under Bendis, Under Aaron he was downed and unable to defend himself.Hahaha, oh god. You're so desperate its not even funny. Its from ANOTHER ****ING WRITER. Go see Infinity Gauntlet/War/Crusade series and its tie ins to see how different details can be.
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First YOU reference Avengers #29 in support of your stance. Now that it doesn't, it's suddenly no longer valid? GTFO. I don't care if the issue was written months apart, it's depicting the same event from a different angle.
Under both writers he was downed. Under both writers it lasted a second or two at most and he was immediately fighting Namor. Under no writers was it shown that he was helpless or defeated.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂You can't be serious here. Its one thing to be in denial, but this is ****ing ridiculous.
Nope. Learn to read.
So much butthurt.
Nope.
Oops, I'm sorry, it's about mutants who can beat Thor for a majority or whatever. My point still stands.
How am I butthurt? You said Thor was all but finished. Is this now untrue? Were you lying?
I don't know how things are done in that rape invested shit hole you call home, but in North America, words have meaning and when you says things, you become accountable for those things.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You're becoming carter level now. Read the words again and see how ridiculous you sound. Thor bounced her TP bolt right back at her, its written in black and white.Good boy, what else should he have done? Duke it out with Thor?
You are digging a deeper hole for yourself with every post. Bravo.
Yes, Thor bounced her TP back at her. He however used a blast. I don't understand how energy absorption would work in that scene instead when we see a blast from Mjolnir ricocheting back her bolt.
What does how he beat Thor have to do with the discussion? Did you forget why you brought him up in the first place?
Because I think prep based wins should be specified for characters? Lol. I'm curious how much your feelings would change if this topic switched to Batman vs. Superman.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You're cute when you show such desperation. That has nothing on this though.Hank Pym stunned Thor with a kick at his normal size and took him out of the fight. Face it, Thor sucks.
I'm not desperate compared to you though. Your posting careers is spent mostly lowballing other characters in various threads. You're less of a Superman fan and more of a Thor/Surfer/Hulk etc. hater.
So you admit your Rachel example was full of shit then?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusShe downed him under Aaron.
Again, I admit that Rachel knocked Thor down.
That was never in contention. She knocked him down. She took him off his feet.Unable to defend himself under Aaron.
But she didn't defeat him, not even close. Nor was he "all but finished" like you claimed. Which is what this thread is about.She did under Aaron.
First YOU reference Avengers #29 in support of your stance. Now that it doesn't, it's suddenly no longer valid? GTFO.Who said it isn't? Its another interpretation of the same scene.
I don't care if the issue was written months apart, it's depicting the same event from a different angle.Like here?
Infinity Crusade #5:
Puck teaming up with Spiderman take on Firestar and Strong Guy. Puck attacks Firestar and his overconfidence proves to be his downfall due to she attacks him from behind before she passes out. It’s PIS, as Puck has taken far stronger blows than this and it didn’t even phase him.1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Crusades-05-18.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Crusades-05-19.jpg
3. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Crusades-05-20.jpg
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Web of Spiderman #106:
The exact same fight as above, just more added to it and Puck is attacked from the front this time than behind. Oh if Puck is hammering your head and you have normal durability, she should have been either dead or out like a light then and there.1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/WebofSpider-Man106-06.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/WebofSpider-Man106-07.jpg
3. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/WebofSpider-Man106-08.jpg
4. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/WebofSpider-Man106-09.jpg
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Alpha Flight #127 (vol.1):
Shaman travels in his astral form to view members of Alpha Flight battling in the Crusade1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-11.jpg
Which should we use?
Under both writers he was downed. Under both writers it lasted a second or two at most and he was immediately fighting Namor. Under no writers was it shown that he was helpless or defeated.Except under Aaron Namor was punching him while he was down.
Nope.She stopped his hammer cold and flattened him with a TK blast. That's as good a win as it is.Oops, I'm sorry, it's about mutants who can beat Thor for a majority or whatever. My point still stands.
How am I butthurt? You said Thor was all but finished. Is this now untrue? Were you lying?He was. Show me Thor defending himself under Aaron.
I don't know how things are done in that rape invested shit hole you call home, but in North America, words have meaning and when you says things, you become accountable for those things.Look at this internet tough guy........
Yes, Thor bounced her TP back at her. He however used a blast.How hard it is for you to understand? He bounced his TP fireball at her which HE HAD ABSORBED before. Where did a blast come into that?
I don't understand how energy absorption would work in that scene instead when we see a blast from Mjolnir ricocheting back her bolt.WTF? Where did that come from? How is a blast bouncing back a TP fireball?
What does how he beat Thor have to do with the discussion? Did you forget why you brought him up in the first place?Yes. Thor ricocheting a TP blast isn't a win by his own power.
Because I think prep based wins should be specified for characters?This isn't about that. Stay on topic.
Lol. I'm curious how much your feelings would change if this topic switched to Batman vs. Superman.Not one bit.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not desperate compared to you though. Your posting careers is spent mostly lowballing other characters in various threads. You're less of a Superman fan and more of a Thor/Surfer/Hulk etc. hater.So you admit your Rachel example was full of shit then?
Nah, you're full of it though.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Rachel downed Thor and Phoenix Namor was instantly on top of him. It WAS embarrassing imo but in the context of the story and the fact that Thor was instantly up, it doesn't mean much. Not to mention the Avenger comic shows her using some telepathy in conjunction with her attack when she hit Thor.It'd be like saying Aquaman could beat Superman because of this:
But he was defeated there. Out cold and near comatose
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't know how things are done in that rape invested shit hole you call home, but in North America, words have meaning and when you says things, you become accountable for those things.
Though what exactly does making stupid references to a guy's nationality have anything to do with a debate about how much your favorite comic book character got story and feat raped(I'll purposefully miss the irony there) a few years back is beyond me.
Originally posted by abhilegend
She downed him under Aaron.Unable to defend himself under Aaron.
She did under Aaron.
Who said it isn't? Its another interpretation of the same scene. Like here?
Which should we use?
Except under Aaron Namor was punching him while he was down.
She stopped his hammer cold and flattened him with a TK blast. That's as good a win as it is.
He was. Show me Thor defending himself under Aaron.
Look at this internet tough guy........
How hard it is for you to understand? He bounced his TP fireball at her which HE HAD ABSORBED before. Where did a blast come into that? WTF? Where did that come from? How is a blast bouncing back a TP fireball?
Yes. Thor ricocheting a TP blast isn't a win by his own power.
This isn't about that. Stay on topic. Not one bit.
This is getting tedious. I've repeated this shit more then once.
Under Aaron, she knocked him off his feet, downed him etc. (Whatever way you want to phrase it) but she did NOT defeat him. Thor was not all but finished. Phoenix Force Namor jumping on Thor nearly instantly and pounding away at him does not mean she beat him either. Especially since we see that he went on to fight Namor in another interpretation.
What? Knocking him down is as good as a win as you can get? WTF?
But since you've grown so confident in your superiority and consider me a chicken, would you be down for a Rachel Grey vs. Thor battle zone?
Originally posted by Epicurus
That's funny, because last I checked the stats showcased the US as having a rape rate more than times as big as the "rape-infested shithole" which abhi supposedly originates from. And let's not even get started on child abuse.Though what exactly does making stupid references to a guy's nationality have anything to do with a debate about how much your favorite comic book character got story and feat raped(I'll purposefully miss the irony there) a few years back is beyond me.
Nothing really, I just felt throwing in some ad hominem because the conversation had grown boring and stale.
First of all, eww, I'm not from the States. Second of all, you are right, no need to take pot shots at the country he lives in. I should insult his intelligence and character like we regularly do. That's much better and lot less insensitive. 😐
Although tbc, I wasn't making fun of him being Indian or whatever in that post, just living there. I'm only prejudice against the French.
Originally posted by EpicurusThe only conclusion is that Rage got raped in India when he was a wee lad. That's his only memory of the land too, so it stuck (in his butt)
That's funny, because last I checked the stats showcased the US as having a rape rate more than times as big as the "rape-infested shithole" which abhi supposedly originates from. And let's not even get started on child abuse.Though what exactly does making stupid references to a guy's nationality have anything to do with a debate about how much your favorite comic book character got story and feat raped(I'll purposefully miss the irony there) a few years back is beyond me.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusBut not in that rendition. Aren't you the same guy who said Thor beat Gladiator when he knocked him down only for Terene to blast him?
This is getting tedious. I've repeated this shit more then once.Under Aaron, she knocked him off his feet, downed him etc. (Whatever way you want to phrase it) but she did NOT defeat him. Thor was not all but finished. Phoenix Force Namor jumping on Thor nearly instantly and pounding away at him does not mean she beat him either. Especially since we see that he went on to fight Namor in another interpretation.
What? Knocking him down is as good as a win as you can get? WTF?Downing him.
But since you've grown so confident in your superiority and consider me a chicken, would you be down for a Rachel Grey vs. Thor battle zone?Rachel as phoenix?
First of all, eww, I'm not from the States. Second of all, you are right, no need to take pot shots at the country he lives in. I should insult his intelligence and character like he does to me. That's much better and lot less insensitive. 😐You are such a softie.Although tbc, I wasn't making fun of him being Indian or whatever in that post. I'm only prejudice against the French.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nothing really, I just felt throwing in some ad hominem because the conversation had grown boring and stale.First of all, eww, I'm not from the States. Second of all, you are right, no need to take pot shots at the country he lives in. I should insult his intelligence and character like we regularly do. That's much better and lot less insensitive. 😐
Although tbc, I wasn't making fun of him being Indian or whatever in that post, just living there. I'm only prejudice against the French.
You Canadian? That brings you down by 10 points in my book of Thor fan coolness.
Vous êtes un crétin alors. 👆
Edit: Thor still clears this roster with the exception of Legion and Franklin.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Nothing sells like nice AH thrown around like dirt/pie in debates, but at least get thine facts right before making a dumb, ignorant claim like that.You Canadian? That brings you down by 10 points in my book of Thor fan coolness.
Vous êtes et imbécile, alors.👆
You want me to put in time and research in order to construct a random insult? Are you actually peeved that I didn't properly insult India? Lol.
Also, aren't roaming bands of rapists a real thing in India? It's like Digi's worst nightmare.
Yup. Where are you from out of curiosity?
You can say that but it's not okay for me to make an ignorant and dumb claim about some foreign country I've only been to once? F*ck off, it's my right as an internet poster.
Also yes, I hate the French and France can pull a Putin and annex Quebec whenever they want from Canada as far as I'm concerned.
Originally posted by abhilegend
But not in that rendition. Aren't you the same guy who said Thor beat Gladiator when he knocked him down only for Terene to blast him?Downing him.
Rachel as phoenix?
You are such a softie.
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How does downing him differ from knocking him off his feet or whatever?
No, not Rachel as Phoenix.
I agree, that insult did not have nearly enough venom in it. I apologize. 🙁
