Originally posted by jinzin
first off you said that I didn't know what I was talking about in the MK vs. sf thread...I'll get to that later tonight...right now I have to mkes these few posts quick before I go out though......NOW.....your whole argument is that there are two different wolverine's....the over rated one and the one written correctly.....WRONG WRONG WRONG....both those wolvies are infact one in the same.....you're using examples that occur in the Ulitmate universe that degrades the credibility of said examples right off the bat....THEN you simply discard any of wolverine's high end showings as total crap.....but think it's logical to uphold spidey's high end showings.....do you really think it's logical that storm alone wouldn't have ass raped spiderman (circumstantial or not)? Honestly...I don't want to throw the term fanboy around.....but when you have multiple MULTIPLE examples of wolverine kicking spiderman's ass compared to ONE example where spiderman bats him away....why do you think it's okay to use the ONE example in your favor as the gospel truth when the other examples clearly outnumber it.......the sad thing is...everytime spiderman's been owned by wolverine, it's been in a spiderman book.....or by a writer for spiderman....this holds true for both the mcp fight, and the one shot, and of course marvel knights....if the spider man writers can admit defeat where defeat is deserved why can't you?
anyways.......you obviously haven't seen any of the magneto vs. wolverine fights.....wolverine either takes him by surprise or he "kills" a bogus version of magneto that wasn't even magneto to begin with due to some convoluted story...in any case....JUST CAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T MEAN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!!! It's really as simple as that..... Spiderman's been written to do things beyong his capibilities far more times than wolverine based on volume alone.....but am I about to discard them because I don't agree? never.....but hey.... stick with what you THINK works right? I mean it's really all you got anyways.....stats don't help that much unless their applied....their applied to comic book and spidey obviously don't have the upper hand there....and aside from that......SABRETOOTH......nuff said......really...
Why are you writing that noone said you knew what you were talking about in the other thread you said it your self where your bias lies, and your posts showed it.
I have no problem accepting fanboy writing where spidey sits there and has a handicap vs wolverine.
Sad really, IVE USED NO ONE EXAMPLE ONCE,you just arent using any common sense and are in looooooooove with writing that supports only you, I don't do that, I hate to say crap writing, but you can't seem to spot it too well.
And for that matter you guys still haven't given me any good reasons why this would happen, which makes perfect sense in this fight that hasn't happened, but thats because there is no logical reason wolvie comes even nigh close to touching spidey, and him and sabretooth aren't touching him high on that wall enough said,............. since you are not really making any good reasons on your own, thats just toooo hard for you guys.blowup
P.S noone said there is 2 wolverines, he just seems that way since he is the most incosistant character and is really exaggerated at times, ps.magneto senses metal.
okay first off....I can have bias while retaining knowledge of both series' street fighter actually has more characters that I like...while mortal kombat has the few characters that I love...no need to think I know very little of the series because I have a bias.....at least I could admit it....which is more than most the peeps on this forum can do....but that aside has nothing to do with this fight....
one sabretooth vs. spidey example was used in spidey's favor.....I countered it with another example that wasn't.
our reasoning is simple though......spiderman's advantages are slight over wolverine, but against sabretooth the only real advantage he has is his spider sense and agility.....and the agility is a very small advantage cause sabretooth's got a lot of that.......if wolverine can beat spiderman than a guy who is wolverine's superior and spiderman's equal to superior in every physical aspect should take this no problem... especially when black cat brings almost nothing to the table in terms of help...even with bad luck powers they effect spiderman as much as anyone else...he's not excempt as was proven in the spectacular spider series...
nah since wolvie is not under spidey physically nor mentally slightly you already knowthis, and though sabretooth is wolvies physical superior, Wolvie would seem to be a greater threat, because he is more resoureful than sabretooth, while spidey is MUCH more resourceful than the likes of the 2 combined plus MUCH stronger and faster than logan plus the same old stuff that has already been mentioned.Its funny how bats seems to win these kind of match ups just because of his brain, and spidey basically matches that, plus other abilities, and he still aint getting touched high on that wall. Its simple, bats and wolvie are characters that people want to see win all, the time even when placed against ridiculous odds, Spiderman is a guy that people want to see lose against simple odds.
resourceful? really.....spiderman is a resourcefull muthafuca...but in a straight up fight...that only goes so far.....especially with these two guys....he's not exaclty gonna get all the time in the world while they're hunting him down.....
spiderman has better strength against wolverine...but it's a non factor since he can't do anything with it.....
he has slightly better speed....but wolverine's fast enough to scare the hell out of spidey with his speed...what makes spidey appear to be superfast is his relexes which are suberb due to spidey sense...but again...in a fight with wolverine spiderman gets tired first and those reflexes take a dive while wolvie keeps on going....
intelligence...spiderman has better book smarts....wolverine is a battlefield tactician when he needs to be so is creed...do the math....
blah wolverine tactic is to plow straightfoward, and i ve posted many times how spidey beats wolverine in like 20 ways while , all wolvie has is battle experience, and a inconsistent healing factor. do that math because either way mentally or physically or gadget wise spidey has the advantage.
Ive already given like a million ways wolvie can be incapacitated without even touching that skeleton so let it go. He gets all the time in the world on that wall and you know it, spideys not getting hit until someone writes for him to to make ita better match, bottom line.
Logan was owned by aunt may recently, enough said.
Why would he be wasting his time fighting old bitter smelly men anyway while he could be messing with black cat is beyond me anyway.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f43/t292712.html
This is what happend to the last wolverine fanboy......😆 😆
wolverine beat lobo in a fan voted comic.....and even if we include those...superman was depowered and wolverine stabbed lobo in the balls (it's the only way could have won)..... but common.....spiderman's not Much faster if at all he has better reaction speed hence why wolverine was fast by comparison and a slight speed advantage...he has NOTHING but reflexes over sabes though...
ummm I guess all those years in the special ops make sabretooth the worste tactician ever....huh?
and 40 times? nu-uh I did a mathematical equation.....using the precious stats he has a 12% advantage....but less stamina he starts getting tired.....he starts slowing down.....hence he loses his advantage...