Originally posted by LordSorgo
Batman has already been released and compared to Star Wars... It is SHIT!Episode 3 has the second biggest Weekend money ranking in $108,435,841 within a period of three day, coming second to Spiderman.
Batman isn't even in the top 20's, so we know that not very many people were anticipated to see it.
Episode III also broke a top record by scoring in 50 mil on it's Midnight premiere!
Episode III has already ranked in $706 million dollars WORLDWIDE, mainly because people love the movie so much, they go to see it a second time.
I have seen both movies, and Batman begins is an overall horrible movie. The battle scenes were so horribly Choreographered. I mean all i saw was Batman jump into a middle of a group of guys, a fifteen second blur of Batman and the guys flailing as the f*cking camera shook and then all the guys were on the ground and Batman was already gone.
and one of these guys in this thread mentioned that Batmans suit was made of Neoprene. This is impossible! The basic chemical composition of Neoprene synthetic rubber is polychloroprene. The polymer structure can be modified by copolymerizing chloroprene with sulfur and/or 2,3 dichloro 1,3-butadiene to yield a family of materials with a broad range of chemical and physical properties. By proper selection and formulation of these polymers, the compounder can achieve optimum performance for a given end-use but cannot insure a bulletproof, knife proof vesting! I mean for christs sakes, he says it's knife proof and bullet proof. I mean even after customizing the Neoprenes compound, you still could never achieve a bulletproof vest. Bullets would go through it, as would a sharp enough knife.
And then Batman meets Ducard.... A man who decides Bruce is the luckiest man on earth and has somehow heard of him, although he is more than 70,000 feet up on a mountain in some Shadow League in the Himilayas. I am guessing he uses phones to call people about a person he has so coincedentally heard of? C'MON!
And everyone is saying how "Dark" this movie is. What is so dark about it? Did he use a more shaded layer of paint for his outfit? Did he pitch his voice to make him sound "Darker"? Was he the bad guy of the movie? Did he kill anyone? What the hell infuses people to start saying that this movie is Dark? Lemme guess, it's because the Screenwriter decided to put a shade of black on the fight scenes to cover it's ultimate shittiness? Good lord. He is still a panzy ass that saves people and listens to his crummy butler, who f*cking orders him around like a goddamn slave.
Butler: Hello Batman. I suggest you don't do this, or don't do this.
Batman: Ok Alfred, i'll listen to you even though i don't have an initiative to. But wait, i do pay you to sit around and clean a house i never am in or use.
Butler: Thanks!This would have been better
Butler: Hello Batman. I suggest you don't do this or that.
Batman: Do i pay you to speak?
Butler: No, you pa....
Batman: Then do shut the f*ck up.Episode III made an example out of Batman. It showed the interest of a prime and ready final prequel.
Episode III showed people how Anakin fell to Badness and nearly conquer the freakin' GALAXY!
Batman showed how lame it is for someone as bad as Batman to become some panzy good guy who saves the dirty DIRTY junkhole that Gotham is.
Batman should have killed that damn prisoner then he should have killed all of those b!tch ass Ninja fags who dare oppose his bad exellence. Of course, they would pass out shortly after watching his Badness. But he decided to be a good guy and burn down a perfectly good Ninja Academy like the Lemon faced moron that he is and always will be.
Yeah whatever dude.Lucas betrayed the fans by not including a young Han Solo in the movie.Now that was a shit thing to do,if anything,Compared to Batman Begins,The Sith is the one thats a horrible movie.Even though it wasnt crap like the last 3 Star Wars films before it,it hardly had the magic that the first two films had.
That fighting scene you mentioned is typical of Batmans fighting skills he possesses.That was amazing choreograpy,what you talking about dude? 🙄
You mentioned the part of neoprene.Hey its just a comicbook movie.I can name several things in Sith that are far more absurd than that so that criticesm is pointless. sheesh.
As for Star Wars making much more money at the box office than Batman Begins? well that doesnt surprise me because warner brothers poorly marketed this film.The marketing of this film was not at all done well like it should have been where the marketing for the sith was done very well and brilliantly so that had a lot to do with its box office success.You market a film brilliantly like spiderman and the sith did and its popular with many people already,its going to do wonders at the box office.The marketing for this film was nothing at all close to the brilliant advertising they did with Batman 89.Huge mistake on Warner Brothers part.If they had done a year long advertising campaine on this film like they should have done and like they did with Batman 89,the results would have been much better at the box office.
If you cant understand why this movie was dark then thats your problem.You obviously dont understand the character of Batman very well then if you dont understand why this movie was dark. Lets his Butler order him around like a slave? what movie did you watch?
Batman should have killed that ninja prisoner and the other ninjas? clearly you dont understand anything about Batman.Thats what makes him Batman is that he doesnt kill people no matter how evil they are.Thats what was great about this movie is that they didnt make him into the cowardly killer that Burton made him into.If you want to see a Batman movie where Batman has no humanity and kills people in cowardly ways and the movie is disloyal to his character,then the Tim Burton Batman movies are for you obviously and this one is not.
Okay The ducard part was a little bit confusing,Ill grant you that.Congratulations!!! you made one good point in this whole post of yours.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
So, Lord, your complaints lay in a single instance of cinematography, which I feel was actually intentional, and the way Alfred and Batman interact, which you're totally incorrect in your assumption of? That's shallow. You're obviously partial, and your box office comparisons are invalid. Nobody ever expected "Batman Begins" to do anything but be a better film than the previous 4. I don't follow your Ducard gripe either. He deciding he's lucky? What?Apparently we saw two totally different movies.
My box office comparisons are completly Valid. Being that Batman is nowhere in the top twenties and Episode III made the most money ever so far on it's opening day.
I can guarentee you that alot more people were amped to see Episode III than they were to see Batman. The other ones were crappy. What makes you think this one is any more darker or special?
The movie just flat out drops down on it's knees to Episode three's ultimate superiorty to the film.
And you gonna try to tell me there is more mistakes on Episode three than there is on Batman?
That is truly laughable.
And i am guessing the blurs that they called fighting scenes on batmam were better than the ones on Episode III?
Most of Ep three's moneymaking comes from people who go see the film again because it is so good.
Box Office numbers have absolutely no relationship to how good a film is.
I can guarentee you that alot more people were amped to see Episode III than they were to see Batman. The other ones were crappy. What makes you think this one is any more darker or special?
That's a real weak argument dude. The last two Star Wars films were crappy too... And if you can't see that this Batman film is darker than the others there is something very wrong with you.
You make me laugh. Ha ha ha.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
Yeah whatever dude.Lucas betrayed the fans by not including a young Han Solo in the movie.Now that was a shit thing to do,if anything,Compared to Batman Begins,The Sith is the one thats a horrible movie.Even though it wasnt crap like the last 3 Star Wars films before it,it hardly had the magic that the first two films had.That fighting scene you mentioned is typical of Batmans fighting skills he possesses.That was amazing choreograpy,what you talking about dude? 🙄
You mentioned the part of neoprene.Hey its just a comicbook movie.I can name several things in Sith that are far more absurd than that so that criticesm is pointless. sheesh.
As for Star Wars making much more money at the box office than Batman Begins? well that doesnt surprise me because warner brothers poorly marketed this film.The marketing of this film was not at all done well like it should have been where the marketing for the sith was done very well and brilliantly so that had a lot to do with its box office success.You market a film brilliantly like spiderman and the sith did and its popular with many people already,its going to do wonders at the box office.The marketing for this film was nothing at all close to the brilliant advertising they did with Batman 89.Huge mistake on Warner Brothers part.If they had done a year long advertising campaine on this film like they should have done and like they did with Batman 89,the results would have been much better at the box office.
If you cant understand why this movie was dark then thats your problem.You obviously dont understand the character of Batman very well then if you dont understand why this movie was dark. Lets his Butler order him around like a slave? what movie did you watch?
Batman should have killed that ninja prisoner and the other ninjas? clearly you dont understand anything about Batman.Thats what makes him Batman is that he doesnt kill people no matter how evil they are.Thats what was great about this movie is that they didnt make him into the cowardly killer that Burton made him into.If you want to see a Batman movie where Batman has no humanity and kills people in cowardly ways and the movie is disloyal to his character,then the Tim Burton Batman movies are for you obviously and this one is not.
Okay The ducard part was a little bit confusing,Ill grant you that.Congratulations!!! you made one good point in this whole post of yours.
Now that i have reviewed your horrible spelling and bad grammar skills, i will try my hardest to understand what crap you are spewing, and post against it.
Cowardly killer? They turned him into some hopeless loner hero who goes around saving the shitty slums of Gotham. He would have been a way better character if he was turned into a Dark Slaughtering machine.
The fighting scenes were good?
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You think Batman is dark because he conquered his fear and decided to throw on some bat suit? False! Him being able to conquer his fear just shows what he can accomplish and him not killing that prisoner shows how much compassion he has. HOW THE F*CK DOES THIS MAKE HIM DARK?
Warner brothers poorly marketed this film? NOT MY PROBLEM! If Lucas marketed his film better, than i guess he is superior to Warner Bros. If Warner Bros can't do a good job, they deserve what they get. Truthfully.
what movie did you watch?
Thank you for asking....
A SHITTY ONE!
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Box Office numbers have absolutely no relationship to how good a film is.I can guarentee you that alot more people were amped to see Episode III than they were to see Batman. The other ones were crappy. What makes you think this one is any more darker or special?
That's a real weak argument dude. The last two Star Wars films were crappy too... And if you can't see that this Batman film is darker than the others there is something very wrong with you.
You make me laugh. Ha ha ha.
You arguement is worse than mine ten fold.
If more people were amped to see Episode III than they were Batman, doesn't that mean that they liked it better? almost 82% of the people that saw Star Wars went back to see it again, me being on of them.
I have seen both and Batman still remains a poor movie compared to III.
Originally posted by LordSorgo
My box office comparisons are completly Valid. Being that Batman is nowhere in the top twenties and Episode III made the most money ever so far on it's opening day.
No one is disputing the fact that ROTS is making more money than Batman Begins. Heck, everyone knew ROTS was going to be a box office breaker. But to say is the best movie only because it made more money is utterly false. So if we use your logic of money making box office records then I guess Titanic is by far better than Episode III.
Fine, you didn't like Batman Begins. But WTF calling it the worse film? That's is just plain silly!
Originally posted by WindDancer
No one is disputing the fact that ROTS is making more money than Batman Begins. Heck, everyone knew ROTS was going to be a box office breaker. But to say is the best movie only because it made more money is utterly false. So if we use your logic of money making box office records then I guess Titanic is by far better than Episode III.Fine, you didn't like Batman Begins. But WTF calling it the worse film? That's is just plain silly!
Nah, i truly wouldn't consider calling Batman a bad film "Silly".
Originally posted by LordSorgo
If more people were amped to see Episode III than they were Batman, doesn't that mean that they liked it better?
It means Star Wars has had nearly 30 years to gather fans with a fan base bigger than Africa. The last two Batman film adaptions that were released in theatres discouraged many people from wanting to view Batman Begins. This and the additional injury of Catwoman last year resulted in some people not being as "amped" to see Batman Begins as they were to see ROTS.