If Anakin could KILL Count Dooku..

I think one of the only reasons OB1 won that duel with Anakin was because he was a lot more aware of his surroundings then Anakin was, Anakin was focused on killin OB1 for betraying him and the Republic, and OB1 knew that where they were fighting wasn't safe or stable and needed some sort of advantage, so when he saw the hill, he went for it. It doesn't mean OB1 had anymore skill then Anakin, it just meant that OB1 was more aware than Anakin was at the time. If Anakin had jumped up there before OB1, then OB1 would have been dead (most likely).

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Originally posted by king_arthur
Then how could he lose to Obi-Wan?

perhaps the phrase "on any given sunday..." would apply.

could also just be poorly thought out and bad story decisions to move the story along... what moves the story forward at one point doesn't make much sense when something else happens later.

Originally posted by headless robot

could also just be poorly thought out and bad story decisions to move the story along... what moves the story forward at one point doesn't make much sense when something else happens later.

No it could not, seeing as it was a well thought out and good story decision that made perfect sense.

It is never as simple as A beat B who beat C so A will always beat C. It depends on the circumstances.

What is going through the fighter's mind and heart at the time? How well do they know each other? Are there environmental hazards in the area? and so on.

Against Dooku Anakin fought a smug, overconfident foe in a room without any environmental hazards. Anakin was also extremely focused on saving two people he cared about deeply (Kenobi and Palpatine).

Against Kenobi Anakin fought an opponent who knew exactly how formiddable he was and didn't underestimate him in a very hazardous environment. It didn't help that Anakin's mind and heart were in a whirlwind since he believed his wife had betrayed him, so he didn't have the focus he had against Dooku.

See what I mean about circumstances?

Too many wordy explanations.
Anakin made the mistake of giving Obi-Wan the high ground simple as that.

It wasn't really Anakin's mistake....OB1 happened to notice the advantage, so he took advantage of it.

You say pototo I say potato. 😉

It's funny though. Obi-Wan thinks the battle is over because he had the high ground, yet when he was hanging on by a nob down the melting pit, Darth Maul was leaps and bounds "higher" than him, and we know how that one ended. lol

Originally posted by ~JP~
Too many wordy explanations.

Wordy explanations are fun. That is the entire point of forums like this.

Originally posted by ~JP~
Anakin made the mistake of giving Obi-Wan the high ground simple as that.

Not "simple as that" although that was a contributing factor.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
It's funny though. Obi-Wan thinks the battle is over because he had the high ground, yet when he was hanging on by a nob down the melting pit, Darth Maul was leaps and bounds "higher" than him, and we know how that one ended. lol

Circumstances differ though. In that scene Maul was being cocky and not paying an attention to the moment at hand. Obi Wan was able to settle down and relax so he could get the job done. Obi Wan wasn't being cocky when he said he had the high ground he just didn't want Anakin to jump.

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Circumstances differ though. In that scene Maul was being cocky and not paying an attention to the moment at hand. Obi Wan was able to settle down and relax so he could get the job done. Obi Wan wasn't being cocky when he said he had the high ground he just didn't want Anakin to jump.

Exactly. Well said.

No, Obi-Wan wasn't being cocky, but I don't think he was exactly being smart either. Just because you jumped off a moving platform onto an elevated slope doesn't automatically make you the winner of a fight, but it appearantly means Anakin couldn't jump over him without getting sliced up. Loved the duel, but this was a crappy way to end it.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
No, Obi-Wan wasn't being cocky, but I don't think he was exactly being smart either. Just because you jumped off a moving platform onto an elevated slope doesn't automatically make you the winner of a fight, but it appearantly means Anakin couldn't jump over him without getting sliced up. Loved the duel, but this was a crappy way to end it.

This is only my opinion, but I don't think Kenobi was saying he'd automatically won the fight by jumping onto the slope. "It's over Anakin. I have the high ground" was just him pointing out that he had a strategic advantage.

Remember this is Obi-Wan Kenobi, the "certain points of view" guy.

As I said, just my opinion.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
This is only my opinion, but I don't think Kenobi was saying he'd automatically won the fight by jumping onto the slope. "It's over Anakin. I have the high ground" was just him pointing out that he had a strategic advantage.

Remember this is Obi-Wan Kenobi, the "certain points of view" guy.

As I said, just my opinion.

Anakin: "from my point of view that Jedi are evil!"
OB1: "Well then you truly are lost!"

He didn't care much for his opinion in that scene! 😛

Originally posted by Sith Master X
No, Obi-Wan wasn't being cocky, but I don't think he was exactly being smart either. Just because you jumped off a moving platform onto an elevated slope doesn't automatically make you the winner of a fight, but it appearantly means Anakin couldn't jump over him without getting sliced up. Loved the duel, but this was a crappy way to end it.

I agree with you Chilled Monkey and General G, you both made great poitns there.

I can see how strategically this would be a bit of an advantage, and Obi-Wan probably was trying to reason with him.

I just think when you look at it, Anakin jumped extremely far off the sinking catwalk on to the droid, he probably could have jumped way over Obi-Wan. But oh well, just a movie. 😄

Off the sinking catwalk...I can't quite recall the exact part, but did Anakin not have a running go at that part? That would add a nice distance to his jump. Haha but yes, just a movie is right! Every little thing is not important 😛

I called it a sinking catwalk lol but I don't really know what it was. It's that piece that breaks off and falls into river of lava, and then they approach that "lava fall" Obi-Wan jumps off it, it tips over the edge making it look like Anakin is going to go down with it, but jumps off just in time.

You are right though, he did have a running advantage.

Originally posted by @stroFan
1. He made one dumbass mistake.
2. Obi and Anakin had trained with each other for years, they knew eachothers moves.

Bingo.

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The high ground theory is wright and wrong in a way

in ep 1 the sith had the high ground but obi wan manage to jump
& use the force do a front flip over the sith and cut him in half
i like to think if the fight would of been in a different setting
( flat surface )
Anakin would of won i think he was better with the L S
but his Recklessness was his down fall
anakin kills him in the end many years later
( like 2 old men with a grudge )

so anakin won 😄