cap's battlefield intelligence is just as effective as creed what makes him better is that his ranged weaponry gives him more options to use and be aware of... sabretooth has a lot of experience and is extremely cunning, however, his ego and the thrill he gets when in combat...kind of takes over. His tactics don't get worse per-say but captain america definitely gets more bang for his buck.....hope that made sense...it probably didn't though...
New or old.
Creed is too strong. Creed getting beat up by DD or some chump not to his caliber is trash.
Wolverine has proven to be too much for Cap.
Back in WWII Cap even alluded to that on several occasions when Logan teamed up with him and later assumed the name of Patch.
Creed has whipped Logan in the past, that's also a fact therefore you can forget about any kind of attack or scenario I ain't buying it.
His shield is not enough and Cap's self perfected american kickboxing style is not enough for someone like Creed. One more thing, the reason why Creed has beaten Logan in the past is also due to when he goes berserker, he still thinks and strategizes with a clear, level head whereas Logan goes into a frenzy and almost goes mindless.
Anybody that goes against this post, please post up a viable argument to prove me wrong, speculation alone is insufficient.
this is a classic. i like jinzin's analysis. i don't think sabe would be able to lay a hand on cap. cap is just too damn good with that shield. he may not match strength, but he's fought plenty as strong, and many stronger than sabe. it would take a while, but i think cap would eventually outthink sabe. and his shield is much more than a simple defensive weapon - it's edges are every bit as deadly as sabe's claws. a combination of slightly superior fighting, much better tactical skills and his shield would, i think, ultimately spell a very hard fought victory for cap.
Originally posted by leonidas
this is a classic. i like jinzin's analysis. i don't think sabe would be able to lay a hand on cap. cap is just too damn good with that shield. he may not match strength, but he's fought plenty as strong, and many stronger than sabe. it would take a while, but i think cap would eventually outthink sabe. and his shield is much more than a simple defensive weapon - it's edges are every bit as deadly as sabe's claws. a combination of slightly superior fighting, much better tactical skills and his shield would, i think, ultimately spell a very hard fought victory for cap.
Why do people assume that Cap can outthink him?
Sabertooth is a level 4 on a scale of 7.
He's not some schmuck of the block.
He's been trained by not only american and foreign elite covert spy agencies but I think by Hydra or some other mercenary/criminal organization. Cap throws his shield and then what?
His adamantium skeleton will not protect him?
What about his animal like reflexes, agility?