Darth Bandon might just kick his ass, we just don't know enough about him, only that he managed to survive for a bit against Revan &co. That being said, it is ENTIRELY possible that Bandon> Vader, this relying on a proxy fight of Revan V Vader. Vader's heavy handed style would ensure total defeat versus Revan, not taking into account their power differences, hence, it can be said that Bandon is stronger, making Vader, THE WEAKEST SITH LORD EVER! Plus, Bandon was never a true Sith Lord.
Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
Darth Bandon might just kick his ass, we just don't know enough about him, only that he managed to survive for a bit against Revan &co. That being said, it is ENTIRELY possible that Bandon> Vader, this relying on a proxy fight of Revan V Vader. Vader's heavy handed style would ensure total defeat versus Revan, not taking into account their power differences, hence, it can be said that Bandon is stronger, making Vader, THE WEAKEST SITH LORD EVER! Plus, Bandon was never a true Sith Lord.
True, Bandon may be stronger. But Bandon had too little of training imo, and was extremely arrogant. however he is called DARTH Bandon so I believe he just barely earned that title myself.
Oh and darth tyrant, have you seen episode 3? he kills 3 Jedi masters in about 10 seconds and he was already about 65 at that time or so, 23 years wouldn't do much to him if he was already that powerful while being old and his power does come from some crystal anyway so his power should not decrease (I hate the crystal idea but Lucas says it's canon so whatever)
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Darth Sidious would win..Vader's medichlorian count plummeted after losing his limbs so the Force isn't as potent in him. He lost about 35% of force power due to his injuries on the volcanic Mustafar.Vader had the highest count after Sidious but after Vader's near fatal injuries, Sidious was the one with the most influence in the Force in the galaxy followed by Yoda.
The only way Vader was able to defeat Sidious was by surprise.
If pure combat was to take place between the 2 Force lightning would win the day for Sidious. Force lightning would horrifically short circut Vader's inner componets severly, frying him instantly even faster than a human would fry because Vaders a cyborg basically.
I say Darth Sidious.
^^^ what fistofthenorth said
How would he win...
Okay let me explain something to you about the Sith.
Master is the most powerful
If you surpass the Master you kill him
Killing your master makes sure the most powerful always rules
Did Vader kill Sidious? No. Did the most powerful rule? Seeing as they were Sith yes. Was Vader more powerful then Sidious? No.
And don't give me that Vader killed him crap, because first of all that wasn't Vader, that was Anakin and he did not kill him in a fair fight.
wasn't even a fight. all vader did was pick him up an unsuspecting sucker an throw him down a reactor core.
imo, vader feared sidious when in his suit. he knew full well that his weakness was that if he was struck with force lightning it would wreak havok on his life support system and body. i don't think vader could block force lightning confidently, if he could, or if he had confidence in himself he would have. presuit, he said he'd take the empire from sidious, in suit, he never made the attempt.
in some of the eu books i've seen where sidious recorded thoughts about some of his creations such as a crysalis rancor. about how making the creature extremely powerful save one fatal flaw, a weakness, that he knew of that he could exploit incase the creature ever turned on him. sidious shared this same philosophy with his apprentices.
Darth sidious definitly because I don't think vader can take sidious Lightning since all it took was that moment of lightning to vader in ROTJ for palpatine to kill him now a sober deul I would be debated but I give it to vader for one reason and one reason only TIME sidious was a great lightsaber deulist able to match the blades of yoda and ,ace windu but those deuls were hours to days from each other so he got a sorta feel again but this is a 20 year time span where he rarely uses his powers since he is the emperor and is occupied his force abilities are strong but dealing abilities wear off over time it's like riding a bike once you learn it never leaves you but if you don't do it for a while you have to get back in the swing of things so that's the only way vader could win but palpatine I think even in the beginning of the fight would start off with the force so vader has not chance
I score this as a solid [B+] effort for a forum post. The chain of cause and effect is surprisingly coherent. Evidence relating to the claims is presented and an argument from someone who might disagree is considered ("that's the only way vader [sic] could win"😉.
One half letter grade was removed due to that being technically one sentence and also misspelling Mace Windu's name. I like Mace Windu. A second half letter grade was removed due to factual inaccuracies about Palpatine's Force use during his time as Emperor. Did you know the planet Byss served as a sort of Force "battery" to power Palpatine's Force research and Force experiments during the reign of the Empire?
Score: [B+]
Vader never lost any his potential and or power post of his Mustafar mauling, Sidious himself stated that Anakin's issue was one of psychological proportions. Vader blamed himself for Padme's death which led to him being weighed down by self hate, guilt, and depression.
Darth Vader with a clear mind would destroy Sidious in a fight, their is no comparison between the two.