Have you noticed that Frodo...

Possibly Frodo's will was entirely subdued at Sammauth Naur, like the starglass? Other readers have felt the same way though, not because of his not killing orcs, but because of his not destroying the Ring. People used to write to Tolkien and complain that Frodo was a traitor.

Originally posted by Darth Travizzle
Have you ever notices that Frodo NEVER killed a SINGLE orc? And also I think it's BS that everyone thinks that Frodo is a hero. Sam's the real hero. Frodo was going to take the ring for himself. That *******. 😠

I loved Sam... i think he was my favorite hobbit!

Sam never once was tempted by the ring... plus I thought that Sean Austin did a good job playing the part

I wasn't entirely satisfied with the flim's chacterising of Sam, in the book he is like Frodo's dog, no exaggeration, take the incidents with farmer Maggot, Gollum, Shelob etc.

Originally posted by shaber
I wasn't entirely satisfied with the flim's chacterising of Sam, in the book he is like Frodo's dog, no exaggeration, take the incidents with farmer Maggot, Gollum, Shelob etc.

hmm.. didnt read the book.. so I have is to go along with the movie

he would sooner Gollum had eaten his whole hand rather than Frodo's finger.

Originally posted by Smodden
Please try to restrain yourself from now on Darth Travizzle

....closing.

Originally posted by Morning_Glory
I loved Sam... i think he was my favorite hobbit!

Sam never once was tempted by the ring... plus I thought that Sean Austin did a good job playing the part

The whole underlying fact is that Frodo was a Hero, because he resisted the temptations of the Ring for so long. Surely, if Sam, or any other being had had the Ring as long as Frodo had, he would have fallen by the end as well. Plus, the residual power that the Ring might have felt at the place of it's very conception, may have allowed it to overpower Frodo.

For an example of an early fall, we can take Sméagol/Gollum. He practically immediately killed for, and fell to the Ring's power. Both Gandalf and Galadriel had stern forbodings against their taking the Ring, knowing that before long, they would fall to the will of Sauron.

It must be understood that Frodo, Sam, and the Hobbits in general were the perfect candidates to hold the Ring because, unlike virtually anybody else in Middle-Earth: they did not desire power! They were content to live as they did, off the land, peacefully.

The burden the Ring laid of Frodo's soul was large enough to excuse his fall at the end, and be named a "Hero", though the story also seeks to glorify the relationship of Sam and Frodo - Sam's utter obediance, friendship, and love for Frodo makes him a Hero, (not to mention carrying the Ring for Frodo, carrying Frodo, killing Orcs, etc.)....

BTW> For those that may not know, it may be some consolation to fans that after many years in Middle-Earth, Sam also departed over the Sea to Valinórë, and thus he was the "last Ring-bearer" to cross over Belegaer the Shoreless, and live among the immortals....

Darth Travizzle: watch your language please

Originally posted by Paola
Darth Travizzle: watch your language please

Sam was the true hero. Frodo would have died after few minutes they left the Shire - Sam stopped Frodo from taking the ring out and alerting the Nazguls.

yeah sam should b the hero xD

Originally posted by shaber
he would sooner Gollum had eaten his whole hand rather than Frodo's finger.

and yeah, sam's deffinately the hero.

Well I have to say I didn't really notice that he never killed any orcs, but I am not surprised, he was a pussy. And yes I have to agree that Sam was in fact the man, I mean come on he was running around killing spiders, slaying orcs, and making babies, clearly he was created in my image or something.

Well I read the all but the last of the books and as much as it shows in the movies it is even more so in the books. Most of all in the Two Towers. The thing is the book the 2TT is almost half of the 3rd movie so most people do not know how much Sam really did.

you think he wasn't a hero b/c he didn't kill an orc. that seems a little shallow. And if Sam had the ring as long a frodo did then sam would have tried to keep the ring.frodo had the ring forever and he showed great perserveriance against the ring