Originally posted by air
although i can see where your going with these threads, your trying to think of something which Harry discovers in book 2 relates to the Half Blood Prince, i will apologise to you if the hand of glory is this item, i have though about this myself but have come to the conclusion thats its not the hand of glory...although I'm not sure what it is....
I see what your saying there. But I think it could be the Hand of Glory. She may have meantioned it once, but she did draw a lot of attention to it when she did.
Originally posted by NightCrawler341
TheSun, shut the heck up! You know like this talk, no come in! Crap you have no proof it isn't it when I back myself up as much as I can to keep this going. Got it? Don't like the thread, no come in.
I know this talk? What is that supposed to mean? You can't back yourself up because it isn't important. Waste of time!
Sure. The hand of Glory was mentioned specifically to demonstrate the sort of shop Harry had landed in, in order to give us a hint that Lucius Malfoy was up to something, and to learn about the other dark magical items he had, thus giving us a hint that about the Riddle Diary. Furthermore, the only reason the hand was mentioned was because Draco asked to have it bought for him, however his father refused and stated something about a broom, I can't quite remember. Finally, Draco's examining of the Hand of Glory led to him searching the shop for other items, almost resulting in the discovery of Harry, thus acumulating suspense. Finally, the only other reason the Hand was even mentioned was in order for the readers to learn that Hermione had beaten Draco on all of the exams, and that Draco's dislike toward those not pure of blood had only intensified since last we saw him. Conclusion; the hand bears no specific relevance to the plot, it was simply a minor creative detour of JKR, whether she liked the idea or just needed a reason to introduce the above points into the story. Sorry, but I still don't understand what you're saying; 'You no like this talk?' Do you mean, 'do you not like this talk?' Now let the hand go!
Haha, well I won't gloat when I'm proved right, because if I did it all the time I would be permanantly gloating. You are just over-analysing the text. My reasons far outweigh yours thus far, and you should come up with a 'proper' reason, other than 'it was just mentioned once therefore it's important.' Flesh-eating slugs were mentioned once - I think one of them is the Half-Blood Prince.
Who ever said this had to be in Half-Blood Prince. If I did, I'm sorry. It could also be in the seventh book. Listen, you heard what I said before. I am standing by my ideas until I am proven wrong or right by JKR or the sixth and seventh book comes out without anything about it in it. Plus Sirius's name was meantioned only once in the first book. And I am sure most people didn't really think really hard on that name neither. And I know you will probably say you knew Sirius was going to be important so don't even say it. It could be the same thing for the Hand of Glory.
Lol. I don't think either of you can really be sure 100% that is is important or unimportant. But the fact remains that it is a possibility!
You gotta remember that this is Harry Potter. You have to over - analyise the text! It has so many clues and everything throughout. The hand of glory represents everything TheSun has said, however it could have other meanings. I must agree that I cannot yet see how it will be valuble in the next books, but there is a chance it could be. I still believe that because it is in the film it is relevent to the future plot or something. The directors always say that they work with JK to make sure the important stuff remains, and that the unimportant gets cut if need be. Because a lot of important stuff has been cut in the films (not the really important stuff, obviously), the fact that this hand remained in the film, shows that it may be important. Most things in the film are like plot points, so the hand could be aswell.
I think I have heard that countless times from other people in this thread. O.O And I think you might be repeating yourself there. I will admit that I am not 100% sure it is important, but I have said it may be. Oh, and about telling me to get over the subject, that is like telling me to get over what I believe (religion wise), because both is unproven 100%! I will stand by this idea even if there is 1% chance of it being right, because it could still very much be. And I agree with the film thing, Weegie.
If I ever saw any evidence concerning the hand of glory, or religion for that matter, then I would certainly give it some thought. However without some shred of substantial evidence I see little point in believeing in something, as there lies no sense whatsoever in doing so. I had no idea Sirius was going to be in it later, because there was no evidence he was going to be. The Hand of Glory may well be in it later, but I'm sticking 100% to it not being, simply because no-one bar JKR can prove so. Hence why I believe this topic futile. If there was some point of discussion, a chance for people to argue with evidence then it would be interesting. As it stands, there is no chance of that, because we know very little about it. And the movies are all terrible, I wouldn't trust them as far as I think NightCrawler is right.