Jubilee gosh-darnnit. Why the hell hasn't she got the mandatory "ridiculous X-Men upgrade" yet?? She's cute too.
Too much respect...I could name lots on this forum, but we know who they are. Every Spider-Man villian though...Spidey should be done with the likes of Doc Ock, Mysterio, Vulture, etc. and trade them in for a real set of villians that should be able to hang with him. I get sick of tools like Shocker and stuff given Spidey fits.
-DM
Namor The Sub-Mariner should get WAY more respect by writers and fans.
He's Marvel's first super-hero. Only Superman and Batman are older.
Wolverine deserves a LOT of respect.
But fanboys and some writers give him WAY too much.
When he's written properly: THAT's respect.
When he's shown to do illogicall feats of godliness....NOT respectful.
Overrated: Aquaman and his damn telepathy...
Underrated: Namor The Sub Mariner...Aquaman lifted a city in water! He's stronger than Sub Mariner! My A$$! What's the issue number? That's right, their is none. Only a picture. Check these two comics out and it'll show how strong Namor is.
Namor the Sub-Mariner broke out of them *on land*, not even in the water, in Marvel Team-Up V2 #8.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Theres been more than 1 occasion where Namor has lifted more than 100 tons. Proof you ask?Sub-Mariner #52(first series) --Namor holds, at arms length, a huge tankership loaded with chemical defoliant weighing at least 110,000 tons. Theres one.
Hulk Annual 98 -- Namor easily holds 2,000 ton destroyer overhead and slams it into Attuma. Theres two.
Namor also forced a large ship against the current of a whirlpool in Avengers.....
the Avengers on board the ship couldn't do anything about the whirlpool and then the ship just jars and stops..... they don't know whats going on and one of them comments
"something stopped us, something strong"
then Namor flies up and joins the story..... of course later on he gets knocked around by some black and white guy and none of the Avengers can stop him... until Thor shows up and gives him a kick-in... so while he may be under-rated... he's still not close to Thor strength
Originally posted by Scoobless
Namor also forced a large ship against the current of a whirlpool in Avengers.....the Avengers on board the ship couldn't do anything about the whirlpool and then the ship just jars and stops..... they don't know whats going on and one of them comments
"something stopped us, something strong"
then Namor flies up and joins the story..... of course later on he gets knocked around by some black and white guy and none of the Avengers can stop him... until Thor shows up and gives him a kick-in... so while he may be under-rated... he's still not close to Thor strength
But he's still stronger than Aquaman.
Didn't Strange stop concentrating though??? Or was that when the Hulk broke out of them.
I'll vote Sentry for underrated. We all suspect that he's much less powerful than he's supposed to be, but the very (very) few accounts we have all point to him being the strongest hero Earth has (except maybe for Franklin and Current Scarlet Witch). I'd prefer to think of him as being at near-Galactus level...and anyone who doubts me is welcome to give me an issue numebr that proves otherwise. 😛
-DM
Originally posted by Sentry
Overrated: Aquaman and his damn telepathy...Underrated: Namor The Sub Mariner...Aquaman lifted a city in water! He's stronger than Sub Mariner! My A$$! What's the issue number? That's right, their is none. Only a picture. Check these two comics out and it'll show how strong Namor is.
Aquaman gets very little respect as it is. Even if Namor could beat him, doesn't mean he's not good.
Originally posted by Sentry
Oh he broke out of the Crimson Bands Of Cyttorrak. Something even Galactus couldn't do. I didn't specify it up there.
I don't think Sabretooth gets enough respect, he should never lose to wolverine again now that he's upgraded.
The Defender's as a team never gets respect either.