Scientologists are jerks

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Originally posted by Big Evil
Why do people hate Scientology? What's so differant from it then any other religon?

You mean aside from the obvious.............?

.........and how those who tries to leave it is treated

I visited a reading room of theirs once. I'm kinda compulsive sometimes....just too curious.

John Travolta's a Scientologist, he based his movie, Battle Field Earth on his religion, which was a pile of poo, poo.

I guess it's a popular religion..Think it's based on some woman psychic or prophet.

John Travolta is a good actor though...

It was "invented " by L. Ron Hubbard

Why its really not funny go here.

http://www.watchman.org/sci/hubmagk2.htm

or read this extract 🙁

Hubbard's Magic
Craig Branch
In a 1984 child custody case involving a Scientologist and his non-Scientologist wife, the court awarded custody to the non-Scientologist after seeing the documentation on the horrid practices of the organization.

BBC journalist Stewart Lamont, in research for his book, Religion Inc., obtained court documents in the case revealing that Justice Latey of the High Court of London called Scientology a "cult," and wrote in the judgment, "Scientology is both immoral and socially obnoxious.... It is corrupt, sinister, and dangerous" (p. 149).

If Latey's observations are true, how can one explain the growth and power of Scientology? How can an organization like Scientology influence its members to practice on outsiders and even each other, acts which virtually everyone outside the group see as predatory, immoral acts?

No doubt, many would locate the problem in the members, pointing to the dark side or depravity of man, and his penchant for self-deception, self-delusion, and lust for power and control. The Christian can agree with that explanation but must add that there is also the possibility of demonic powers influencing and working through men, exercising power through leaders to ensnare and control the followers.

It is not surprising then, that an examination of L. Ron Hubbard's life reveals he was significantly influenced by, and was a practitioner of, the black arts - the occult.

Jon Atack, a former Scientologist and highly repected biographer of Hubbard and Scientology, has collected probably the most extensive research archives on Scientology. Atack writes, "It is impossible to arrive at an understanding of Scientology without taking into account its creator's extensive involvement with magic" (FactNet Report, "Hubbard and the Occult" p. 2).

Atack states that when one examines Hubbard's private letters and papers which were revealed in the Church of Scientology vs. Armstrong trial, and compares the teachings of Scientology with those of the infamous occultist Aleister Crowley, the connection is inescapable (Ibid.).

Hubbard was clearly involved in the occult. In 1945, L. Ron Hubbard met Jack Parsons, who was a renowned scientist, protégé of occultist Aleister Crowley, and a member of the notorious Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.), an international organization founded by Crowley to practice sexual black magic.

Parsons had Hubbard move onto the property of Parsons' Pasadena, California, home. It was there that Hubbard began to practice the occult and sexual magic. Parsons' mistress, Sara Northrup, left him for Hubbard and later became Hubbard's second wife, even before Hubbard had divorced his first wife (The Los Angeles Times, June 24, 1990, p. A37).

Biographer Russell Miller wrote, "Parsons considered that Ron had great magical potential and took the risk of breaking his solemn oath of secrecy to acquaint Ron with some of the O.T.O. rituals.... Parsons wrote to his 'Most Beloved Father' (his term for Aleister Crowley) to acquaint him with events: 'About three months ago I met Captain L. Ron Hubbard.... Although he has no formal training in Magick, he has an extraordinary amount of experience and understanding in the field. From some of his experiences I deduced that he is in direct touch with some higher intelligence, possibly his Guardian Angel. He describes his Angel as a beautiful winged woman with red hair whom he calls the Empress and who has guided him through his life and saved him many times. He is the most Thelemic [self-willed, independent] person I have ever met and is in complete accord with our own principles'" (Russell Miller, Bare-Faced Messiah: the True Story of L. Ron Hubbard, 1987, pp. 117-8, emphasis added).

"Parsons wanted to attempt an experiment in black magic that would push back the frontiers of the occult world. With the assistance of his new friend, he intended to try and create a 'moonchild' - the magical child 'mightier than all the kings of the earth,' whose birth had been prophesied in The Book of the Law more than forty years earlier" (Ibid., p. 119).

Former high ranking Scientologists Brent Corydon and Hubbard's son, L. Ron Hubbard Jr., wrote, "In order to obtain a woman prepared to bear this magical child, Parsons and Hubbard engaged themselves for eleven days of rituals ¼ on January 18th, Parsons found the girl who was prepared to become the mother of Babylon, and to go through the required incantation rituals. During these rituals, which took place on the first three days of March 1946, Parsons was High Priest and had sexual intercourse with the girl, while Hubbard who was present acted as skryer, seer, or clairvoyant and described what was supposed to be happening on the astral plane" (Bent Corydon & L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., L. Ron Hubbard: Messiah or Madman?, 1987, pp. 256-7).

Originally posted by @F1
John Travolta's a Scientologist, he based his movie, Battle Field Earth on his religion, which was a pile of poo, poo.

Was that the one where he looked like Rob Zombie?

I'll put it this way: That movie was better then any Star Trek crap.

It an interesting philosophy to read about, I have no problem with people who are into it, but when they start trying to push it onto you then I don't want to know. Same with any religion/philosophy branch in the world. As long as people don't force it on me, I don't mind what their beliefs are as long as no one is harmed.

Originally posted by Bardock42
John Travolta is a good actor though...

if he has spent the last 30 years acting like a bad actor, then i agree

seriously though, if he wasnt a good dancer, he'd be selling insurance full time

Originally posted by Big Evil
Was that the one where he looked like Rob Zombie?

I'll put it this way: That movie was better then any Star Trek crap.

You must really dislike Startrek

Originally posted by Big Evil
Why do people hate Scientology? What's so differant from it then any other religon?

Because they tell people that Jesus will save them from illnesses. Then the people die. That's pretty shitty. 😐

Then they say if they die they didn't have enough faith or that their was some hidden sin or that it is gods will. Though I'm not sure they believe in sin..abstract sin maybe.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
Because they tell people that Jesus will save them from illnesses. Then the people die. That's pretty shitty. 😐

yeah thats quite a convenient excuse. if im not mistaken, didnt andy kaufmen also die from this garbage?

Originally posted by PVS
no, these particular groups told people that they would only give out food and supplies if they accepted christ. when they refused, they packed all the shit up and left. is that a good deed?

They do realize that this practice goes completely against the Christian doctrine, right?

Originally posted by PVS
if he has spent the last 30 years acting like a bad actor, then i agree

seriously though, if he wasnt a good dancer, he'd be selling insurance full time

What's wrong with the world...people think Nicholas Cage, but they don't like Travolta.....it's a pity.

I once visited the L. Ron Hubbard building in Hollywood years ago. And basically the staff provides a little tour of the building and you get to see a little museum dedicated to Hubbard. He was a fascinating man and very creative sci-fi writer. I think is a shame that hollywood celebs detoriate the philosophy of Hubbard's for personal gain. But then again we're talking about Hollywood Celebs so is pretty sad.

*cough*Tom Cruise*cough*

Originally posted by Vivien
I blame Bob Marley's death on Scientology, he broke his toe playing soccer and was told by Scientologists not to go to the hospital.
His broken toe got infected and a cancerous tumor started to grow in his foot, it spread to his brain thus killing the reggie legend.
Bloody Scientologists!!!

Marley was a Rastafarian not a scientologist.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Marley was a Rastafarian not a scientologist.

😄 Kharma you are so dry 😆

With all due respect Windancer Hubbard was a conman and a loon. His Audit idea instead of teaching is his most damaging idea.

Originally posted by WindDancer
I once visited the L. Ron Hubbard building in Hollywood years ago. And basically the staff provides a little tour of the building and you get to see a little museum dedicated to Hubbard. He was a fascinating man and very creative sci-fi writer. I think is a shame that hollywood celebs detoriate the philosophy of Hubbard's for personal gain. But then again we're talking about Hollywood Celebs so is pretty sad.

*cough*Tom Cruise*cough*