Re: is wanking a sin?
Originally posted by DaRk Jester
i know im not supposed to have lustful thoughts but sometimes i cant help myself. is this sin forgiveable?discuss.
God wouldnt have even created the term 'masturbation' or the person(s) who created the TERM masturbation if it werent right. God created you with a (ahem) and im pretty sure intercourse with another person isnt all its used for...
where does it say it is a sin? read Leviticus chapter 15 verse 16 talks about body fluids, but it doesn't say it is a sin, because when the law was written, if it talked about a certain sin, then God would give them instructions on what kind of offering they would give such as sin,grain,fellowship, and burnt offerings if these sins were committed. but God didn't require any man or woman to give an offering, he simply said, he would want them to take a bath before the evening comes, does not say it was a sin. it is only a sin when you abuse it. if you look up porn, or fantasize about someone then it is a sin, because you have lusted. Lusting doesn't require masturbation. people masturbate without knowing it. it is abused like sex is today. sex was never intended for outside of marriage and so it is fortification and adultery if married. it isn't a sin because the bible didn't say it was a sin, and it only a sin when you look up porn and lust and do it at the same time. Jesus warned of lustful fantasies, but he never mentioned masturbation or the old testament. lust and masturbation is not the same thing. The bible never said what was it intended for. but it never said it was a sin, only when someone was abusing it and then it is a sin. maybe it was created for a purpose. the Jews never said it was a sin and never considered it a hot topic. I think many Churches are wrong about this, but they are right when lusting and stuff and is wrong. They give good reasons why it is wrong, but never say anything if was a sin in the bible. people say it is self-pleasure and that is why it is a sin. no, not exactly sex is both self pleasure and the other partner also. when you eat a donut, is that self-pleasure? it is OK until you eat another donut then another and then another and that is when it is abused and people become fat and food becomes their idols. The same is sex and masturbation. teenagers are the hardest hit at the age of 13 when they start developing into an adult. the hormones are unstable at this time. every sexual thing will be full throttle when it comes. This same hormones give you pimples, hair, body organs and a sex drive that is at its peak during the teen ages and that is why so many of them do it. even if a person doesn't masturbate for a certain number of days, they will eventually do it because the hormones will be raging in the bloodstream making it unbearable, but it is normal because it is part of becoming an adult. it becomes no normal when people look at porn and stuff and masturbate when the hormones are at rest and then that is when the abusing comes and idolatry. did you know, and I look this off a Christian website and it said only 30% of people when only seven to thirty days. 22% 1-3 days. 89% of the population masturbates. many Churches say it is a sin when it isn't in the bible. many false teachings have come from this, but it only started with the early Church days when they got it form pagan religions instead of the bible. people need to look at it from a different way and stop abusing it like they do sex. How can we say it is a sin when the bible says nothing about it. I know it can deal with lust, but it was never made for that. It was made for a different reason and the bible never says anything about it. pastors all over America make this the hottest topic in the church of today. If god said this was a sin then it would be all over the bible, but it never mentioned masturbation. surprised at this figure. many churches have split up because many agree it is a sin why many think it isn't. but it isn't because the bible never said so. If was then it would be in the same line as fortification, but god never mentioned it in this category.
Originally posted by cking
people need to read the bible says about masturbation instead of false teachings. it never did but only clean yourself before evening in Leviticus chapter 15 verse 16. He never said this was a sin.
Just wondering...Leviticus is full of all kinds of rules...do you follow them all?