Yoda vs Markka Ragnos

Who would win? I say Ragnos

Ragnos

Yoda
ask for reasons if you want

why yoda ! ragnos is THE most powerful sith EVER i mean i agree that yoda is powerful and all but a jedi wiht the same or more powerful than him couldnt even fight ragnos wen he was on his death bed ! yoda has no chance

marka

Of course Yoda has a chance, and i don't agree completely when you say Ragnos is the most powerful sith ever, Chewbacca II.
I've heard the argument: "Naga sadow didn't even doubt to challenge Marka Ragnos when Ragnos was on his death bed!!!" like a thousand times, and everytime i wonder, what the heck should be the point for Sadow, i mean, if you knew someone was going to die soon, why then kill them??

naga wanted to kill marka because that would have confirmied him as the dark lord of the sith wether if marka died by himself he would have had to fight ludo kresh(i think its him) for the title

and yoda does hav no chance, its like saying..........for instance maul has a chance against sidious, maul is good but he could never in this world beat sids

anyway, the fact that noone challenged Ragnos, doesn't alone proove his strength.

Originally posted by sasee tiin
Of course Yoda has a chance, and i don't agree completely when you say Ragnos is the most powerful sith ever, Chewbacca II.
I've heard the argument: "Naga sadow didn't even doubt to challenge Marka Ragnos when Ragnos was on his death bed!!!" like a thousand times, and everytime i wonder, what the heck should be the point for Sadow, i mean, if you knew someone was going to die soon, why then kill them??

He didn't want to do it before then either and Ragnos ruled for 150 years. 150 years were everybody hated him wanted his title or just wanted the half blood gone.

If Sadow would have killed Ragnos when Ragnos was dying he would have claimed the title of Dark Lord without having to fight for it. He had plenty of reasons to kill Ragnos even then but still for some reason he didn't. He was scared.

yes it does, wne ragnos was around it was a time wen there were thousands of sith and atleast 100 of them wanted to be dark lord of the sith, and plus only about 5 percent of all the dark lords of the sith of that time died by old age al the ohters died by assination, or in battle, so the fact that he didnt does prove his strngth

you don't seem to understand....
just an example (perhaps not very suitable, but anyway)
If we are ten friends at my home, watching a movie, then suddenly a crazy monster appears. all my friends try to fight it, but they die. I know the house, so i just run and hide. That doesn't prove my strength?

My point is, you can survive without necessarily being extremely powerful.

Originally posted by sasee tiin
you don't seem to understand....
just an example (perhaps not very suitable, but anyway)
If we are ten friends at my home, watching a movie, then suddenly a crazy monster appears. all my friends try to fight it, but they die. I know the house, so i just run and hide. That doesn't prove my strength?

My point is, you can survive without necessarily being extremely powerful.

Yeah but in this case Ragnos was the monster and Sadow was the boy hiding and he definitly above all wanted the monster to die. And he wasn't just any boy, he was a damn strong powerful smart boy and yet he still couldn't kill the monster. The strongest person in the world could not fight that monster. That makes Ragnos one hell of a powerful monster.

xactly, thanks for the arguements fishy

Marka Ragnos I would say has a beter mastery of the Force...But Yoda has it with his lightsaber. Marka Ragnos...if I'm not mistaken uses a cortosis sword. A cortosis sword is like a mid-evil sword...very heavy and is slower than a lightsaber while trying to be swung. Yoda on the other hand has a lightsaber, giving him the advantage of speed and plus his mastery of form IV adding on to that speed.

Yoda wins with a lightsaber.
Marka Ragnos with the Force.

fair enough i guess, but for instance if marka ragnos used a light saber like his more advanced counterpart(yoda), MARKA WOULD WIN, i think

Don't underestimate the blade. Its not a lightsaber and not as powerful no doubt but it can block lightsaber swings and with somebody like a Sith who are pretty big and strong even without the force it should be in good hands add the force and I don't think the weight is much of a problem anymore.

i don't disagree with Ragnos being powerful, but why didn't anyone doubt to challenge him?
who did he beat?

Originally posted by sasee tiin
i don't disagree with Ragnos being powerful, but why didn't anyone doubt to challenge him?
who did he beat?

No names, he defeated rebellions however. He didn't want the Sith Empire to expand because he knew it would collapse so instead of making the Sith fight the republic he made them fight him. Meaning he had a shit load of enemy's almost all the time trying to kill him but they all failed.

Originally posted by Fishy
No names, he defeated rebellions however. He didn't want the Sith Empire to expand because he knew it would collapse so instead of making the Sith fight the republic he made them fight him. Meaning he had a shit load of enemy's almost all the time trying to kill him but they all failed.

I disagree, I've read a lot of official things about Ragnos and none of them even come close to saying things like "Ragnos was extremely powerful" or "Everyone hated him" or "Naga was scared of him". So I have to disagree with those statements since nothing official comes close to saying anything like that that I know of. Why wouldn't Sadow try to kill him?

1) he was patient and could wait for Ragnos to die naturally without Ragnos' supporters coming after him. Seriously, if he killed a guy on his deathbed people would've tried to kill him.

2) Letting Marka die naturally caused chaos and confusion without a Dark Lord making it easier for Naga to become the next.

3) Who cares? He was probably stronger than Naga, a guy who used Sith magic to detonate stars but never defeated anyone in combat. Maybe Ragnos could blow up two stars at once, not like it would help against Yoda.

I honestly don't know who would win since we have no idea how powerful Ragnos is except he's basically got to be weaker than Exar Kun so I will say Yoda.