What is more powerful?

Started by Revan Souer3 pages

But if you have the better tactics and strenght wouldnt you always win?

Originally posted by Revan Souer
But if you have the better tactics and strenght wouldnt you always win?

The simple answer would be no. Although Raw Power and Cunning are helpful little buggers, that's not what life consists of.

This thread isn't about who's cooler, it's about who's more powerful. From a physical standpoint, the Sith out match the Jedi, but thier lack of understanding of good nature is what brought thier downfall.

Now in their dying years the Jedi became fanatical about their old ways and forgot the true purpose of the Order. The were to protect life in all ways and forms, including love. Obivously they didn't and that's what made the Jedi Order fall.

The upside for the Jedi was that they believed in mercy and SERVED the Force and not USE the Force like the Sith did.

Now I may have gone off on a tangent but I'm just trying say that what Red Superfly said was perfectly correct and should have ended this thread.

But saying the good side always wins is a little nieve(sorry can't spell). At you are going for the fact that the Sith are evil when isn't a matter of point of view. I bet Not everyone was happy that the Empire fell. Some people would of found it better for them that there wasn't a huge depate all thetime to get something done. As Obi said ALOT OF THINGS DEPEND ON OUR POINT OF VIEW. That the war in irac for example, was it right was it wrong? If you think it was wrong then isn't Bush evil? However he has a habit of winning. So do Arsenal and there are the most evil team in football(my point of view). So just saying something is Evil that means it won't win isn't true

I'd say the Sith during the time when there was more than a Master and apprentice becuase they unleash their anger and fury while jedi aren't supposed to. Plus there were Sith who mastered double bladed lightsabers jedi never did that

jedi cuz yoda said it to luke

Sith rules cause it inspires and without the Sith there was nothing to do for the Jedis, while reversed: the dark side has always something to do... so? The Sith rules!

Like Red superfly and all of the other good side supporters said the good side prevails in the end. That proves that the good side is stronger. Overconfidence is the dark sides biggest weakness (Anakin-limbless, Emperor-Flat lined, dooku-look ma no hands, maul-2 for 1 deal) All of these sith died because they were too overconfident especially the emperor.

why are ppl saying the sith when it was the jedi who won?

Both sides negate the other, I believe. In terms of will and goals - the Jedi. In terms of combat power - the Sith. Remember. Palpatine was easily torturing Luke - preparing to kill him. It required another Dark Lord - now redeemed - to kill Palpatine. Vader killed him - but died in return.

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Both sides negate the other, I believe. In terms of will and goals - the Jedi. In terms of combat power - the Sith. Remember. Palpatine was easily torturing Luke - preparing to kill him. It required another Dark Lord - now redeemed - to kill Palpatine. Vader killed him - but died in return.

Wouldn't though the mili-second vader decided to save luke he was anakin again, so by the time he actually attacked the emperor it was anakan not vader who saved Luke.

This is my opionon on the whole matter, in the long run the jedi win. But when it comes down to power i think there is no winner.
Anyone can be stronger then the other with the force. I say it depends on the user. Each side of the force is equal but what shows there power is the person using it.

(I hate midi chlorians but ill use em as an example.)
If mr Darkie has 156 midichlorians
and mr lightie has 134 midichlorians
then the darkside is stronger.

If used the right way both sides can have the same strength but some people are more cut out to use the lightside and use it the right way and vice versa with the darkside.

Aight 😎

I'm gonna go with Sith because of Dark Lightning I mean sure Yoda could launch it back at him and Mace could block it, but they are masters you don't even need to be that powerfull of a sith to use Dark Lightning, but then again I guess it depends on what you think power is.

Jedi are more powerful, Yoda says in Empire Strikes Back that the Light Side is stronger.

Jedi, it proves that in RoTJ.

Originally posted by Revan Souer
But saying the good side always wins is a little nieve(sorry can't spell). At you are going for the fact that the Sith are evil when isn't a matter of point of view. I bet Not everyone was happy that the Empire fell. Some people would of found it better for them that there wasn't a huge depate all thetime to get something done. As Obi said ALOT OF THINGS DEPEND ON OUR POINT OF VIEW. That the war in irac for example, was it right was it wrong? If you think it was wrong then isn't Bush evil? However he has a habit of winning. So do Arsenal and there are the most evil team in football(my point of view). So just saying something is Evil that means it won't win isn't true

What? No sorry, this is Star Wars. Good is good and evil is evil.

Good wins. Seriously, anyone looking for a more detailed explanation can glance over my previous posts, but like I said before, ROTJ is the end, and in the end the Light Side wins.

This has very little to do with how powerful a single Sith vs a single Jedi is. Any Sith can be more powerful than any Jedi. Due to training, due to affinity in the force, due to wisdom, a Sith can become more powerful than any Jedi. But this is not what the question is asking. The question is, what side of the force is stronger? Dark or light? It isn't asking WHO is more powerful.

The dark side is an anomolly, and a unnatural imbalance. The Force rights itself through whatever means it can. The Force cannot and will not stay corrupted and abused, because the Force is the equivalent of God, and is infallable. It cannot be proven wrong, and is all powerful. Those that SERVE the Force's true purpose in life gain a power beyond any Sith's wildest dreams (immortality and eternal wisdom), and therefore only those who are self-less and caring will ever achieve such a power.

Star Wars is a moral story, so the bad side will never win.

I disagree the dark side is not an anomaly it is a natural part of the force. Like the cave on Dagobah some things in the galaxy are just strong in the dark side and the first sith discovered this. It is like two forms of a religion (eg Christianity- catholiscism and protestantism) Both have core beliefs but different specifics about them. Sith and Jedi both rely on the force and use it to an advantage. Sith use it for power and greed. Jedi use it for defense and the greater good. And I dont know about anyone else but I think Yoda is the strongest force user ever and he said the dark side is not stronger and the sith use the dark side so for my last comment the Jedi use the light side so they are stronger.

Tell me if this sounds crazy or not.

I think the Dark Side is easier and faster to achieve power then the Light Side becuz you feed your actions off of your hate, anger, and emotions to fight, but by using the Dark Side you cant gain as much power as you would using the Light Side. Using the Light Side takes more devotion and more time to achieve power but if you master it you can become far stronger then you could on the Dark Side.

I don't think that sounds crazy at all. I think there is some truth in that but not all of it is true. I think that the dark side clouds your judgement so you actually think you can get powerful quicker than the light like anakin did. He knew he had to rush to save Padme so he thought he had no choice but the dark side. Then once he turned and he killed jedi and ultimately got mauled by Obi-Wan that all just helped to fuel his anger and think all the more the jedi betrayed the republic. But he really did not become more powerful when he turned (at least not right away) because I think that he could've beaten Obi-Wan in a duel if he was still on the light. And there is one main weakness of the dark side that Anakin possessed; overconfidence. He thought overnight turning to the darkside he was nasty ill better than obi wan and that he coud take him on "the high ground" and we saw what happened. So ultimately I believe "The quick and easy path" is not so easy and is not stronger because nearly every Sith is destroyed by either betrayal or overconfidence, that is the way of the sith where all things end in death.

the sith their are only two their were at one times hundreds of jedi

I think that the jedi are more powerful but the sith have much more offensive force powers. Palpatine and vader were the 2 most powerful sith ever. Of course they were good at lightsaber combat. But the sith just rely on brute strength and skills when the jedi use the force. Therefore the jedi are more powerful.

Sith can do anything Jedi can and more so...