Originally posted by olympian
He hasent owned any of the two so far. And hes not going to own Herc if he couldnt even Ko Herc when hes at his weakest.
the byrne's animal, the mindlesshulk, owned two avengers teams plus Doc Samson......Hercules was not an exception
Hulk alone owned 14 heroes in that situation.
in that issue HUlk used Hercules just like his slave,and he mopped the floor with his body(literally talking)
Onwing its completly -beating- an opponent. He owned Doc Samson and Namor. Herc was until the very end the guy who was punched by the Hulk, got up and punched the Hulk back. Thats not a owning. Thats fighting toe to toe.
"in that issue HUlk used Hercules just like his slave,and he mopped the floor with his body(literally talking)"
You mean like Hercules did in the issue before when he went alone against the Hulk and hurt him twice? The same Hulk that was still fresh from the battlesof after? hmmmmm
And get real. Two whole avengers team that werent worth a thing. 12 guys and gals where only 3 ( Herc, She Hulk, Wman ) where at Hulks level? Even Namor was out due to the heat stealing his strenght.
If anything Hulk should hid in shame he didnt Ko guys like cap, Blavk Knight, Tigra, hawkeye.
hulk has nearly killed herc. herc is again not in hulks league strength wise. that comic had hulk whooping all the avengers put against him relatively easily. thor cannot increase his healing / strength limitlessly and hulk can so whats he gonna do, i know teleport him somewhere. your relentless buffoonery is truly striking. herc is a less powerful version of thor, someone who has admitted his inability to match hulks physical power
"hulk has nearly killed herc."
Yes. On Herc/Hulk unleashed when Hercules was - weaker-. Depowered. Lower strenght and all that jazzs. Herc wasent and wont win against guys on that level like the Hulk was if his weak. Same for any other Top hero.
And Hulk still didnt Ko him out in that one.
"that comic had hulk whooping all the avengers put against him relatively easily"
He wooped two of them for good. How about the rest? And how easy it is when you still have the main 3 who can punch him up until the end. And most of all how -you- consider it a wooping when Cap and guys at that level that wer- figthing him- werent broken or ko.
And a interesting wooping it was with like i already said Herc on the game all the time.
"herc is a less powerful version of thor, someone who has admitted his inability to match hulks physical power"
Regular Herc ( immortal/classic ) was never beaten by Thor in a physical match. In fact he has two wins against Thor. One against the real one. I was the same kind of Herc ko a weaker Hulk and Hulk beating a weaker Herc. That particular fight had Odin removed half of Thors strenght and he lost.
The second was against Mcsterson Thor that was possesed by Ares. Herc took more than one Hammer shot in the back of his head and still got up and overpowered that Thor. All the other fighst between these two are stalemates. Like against the Hulk.
Originally posted by DEVILHULK
the byrne's animal, the mindlesshulk, owned two avengers teams plus Doc Samson......Hercules was not an exceptionHulk alone owned 14 heroes in that situation.
in that issue HUlk used Hercules just like his slave,and he mopped the floor with his body(literally talking)
The MindlessHulk,alone, dominated the fight against 13/14 heroes.You know that if Hercules had fought that hulk alone, he would have been killed in few minutes.The Demolition team who the hulk in the past beat badly in the defenders, owned and almost killed Herc.
The same opponent and two different results:
Hercules vs Demolition team = Herc dead (almost)
Hulk vs Demolition team = team trashed
the hulk used Herc and Namor like they were his personal toys
"The MindlessHulk,alone, dominated the fight against 13/14 heroes"
He held his own against those avengers. When you are not beating up anyone except for two in the very beggining of the fight, your not owing or controlling the situation.
"You know that if Hercules had fought that hulk alone, he would have been killed in few minutes."
Hercules -did- fought that Hulk alone. before the 6 hour fight Hulk had with Samson. One on one. Was he beaten? No. Did he had more shots than the Hulk? Yes. Was Hulk fresh from the fights we mentioned? Yes. Did he dominated his fight with Herc? Again no.
"The Demolition team who the hulk in the past beat badly in the defenders, owned and almost killed Herc."
Ah yes. The avengers siege one. The one where the wrecking crew - did not - beat him. You see if you open the comic and check the page before Herc got Ko, youll see the "demolition team " on the ground swatd aside after trying to dogpile on Hercules and him standing with no injuries saying theyr all dead.
Goliath was the one who Ko Herc. After attacking from behind my good sir.
Of course you also know in another fight after that happened Herc beat every single guy of that team and destroyed theyr magical weapons with his bare hands...aye?