Re: Can you rilly sin?
Originally posted by XxoooxXThe only way somebody can sin is to balaspheme the holy spirit and if he did he would know it but would not care. All these other things that we call sins could more accurately be called sin consequences or the consequences of sin. Adam sinned, his seed along with everything else became corrupted that sin nature passed through his seed. We inherate a tendency to commit sin but Jesus paid for it on the cross. Since all sin leads to death and jesus died for us that sin consequence is paid for. You're going to make mistakes which might be called sinning, but it is not imo sinning. The question of whether you can lose your salvation or not is an age old debate that probably won't get solved anytime soon but Ithink the bible says you can't.
I don't think you can rilly sin. Every mistake you make is ignorant and just somthing you need to learn from. Right? It is natural for all of us to make mistakes according to our personallitys. We are not Indebt to god if we sin. We can't halp but make mistakes. It is natural. And if god created jesus perfict than why didin't he create us perfict. Are we a messup or a expermin't to see if we will sin?Any opinions?
God is not a sadist
Originally posted by debbiejoThe jews don't believe in hell, I wonder why we do. They don't believe in a lot of other christian doctrine but I think they're right about this one. I never could understand how an all loving God could send anybody to an eternal torment. Ezekial chapter 14:12 I think says the wicked will die not burn in hell forever. Revelation 22 talks about that too. No where does it say that people will burn in hell forever when taken in context. You can make the bible say a lot of things it doesn't say.Why would God want to make someone burn forever, that idea connotes a very sadistic god.
God doesn''t have a whip.....What kind of FATHER would eternally punish his children in such a way.
you can't lose your salvation, for Jesus says this no angel, human or any other can take them out of my hand. We are his possessions and we are never lost again. If people lost their salvation, then jesus would have to come back and die again. He died once and for all for man and that is the perfect sacrifice for God. once saved always saved.
they believe in hades, which is a translation of hell. Here is what Jesus says about hell. if your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of the parts of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better you lose one of the parts of your body than for your whole body to go to hell!
God demands perfection and a eternal relationship with him, that is why Jesus died so we would be perfect spiritually. God is a god of justice, he is offended when we sin against him. God doesn't want people to be separated form him. If Jesus didn't die that day we would all be doomed. After Jesus died there was an earthquake and the temple split into two, that demonstrates God's justice on the cross of sin and forgiveness. When Jesus said it is finished! it means God's payment of sin is paid and then people have the permission to go to heaven blameless through Christ.
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